no hype - no rumor please.. anyone who still goes to the hall might hear something during the announcements.
i will be going myself and will be sure to report back what is said, if anything.. from channelc.. .
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi.
Bollocks, bollocks and MORE bollocks!!!
If it was anything even remotely important, then they would have announced it without delay.
When something is of immediate importance they let the congs know straight away. YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT.
I've experienced 'emergency' annoucements.
But even if they announced that Armageddon was tomorrow, i would STILL stand proud in my stand against this disgusting, filthy organisation.
Enough!!
Peace
Lowden
what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.
is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.
if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.
Whilst we were still in the org' my son, 14 at the time, went to the P.O. to discuss this subject. He was obviously tossing himself stupid at the time, as most adolescents do and wanted some guidance because of the hardline that the WTS take (probably too embarrassed to come to me directly). The P.O. responded by saying that he personally had 'never had a problem with masturbation'..........Well that was helpful, ya lying bastard!!
It is quite simply impossible for an adolescent to stop taking part in this mind-blowingly pleasurable act. Hormones exploding, sexual awakenings, girls suddenly become magnetic, etc etc. It's a natural process.
To stifle the 'natural' is to damage the individual.
Of course, we should all calm down a bit as we get older but it's still natural. Although it could become an obsession, as anything can if it's done to the extreme.
Lay off the kids Brooklyn!!!!!!! You simply alienate and damage the otherwise happy and undamaged.
Peace
Lowden
short of god coming down herself to say "howdy y'all!
" what would it take to make you a believer in god?.
not necessarily the god of the bible or any religion in particular, just a supreme deity of some sort, call it ra, thor or chaos.
The fact that we're here at all makes me think that there IS something that needs explaining.
Proof is not a thing i currently need. I will find out in due course.
I will say this one thing though. I believe in eternity and i believe that i am part of it. I do not believe that this 'mortal coil' is the only jumper i will wear.
Peace
Lowden
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personal and more than likely good reasons.
and after reading the .
Would Jesus the Christ fall under paranormal? He came from the invisible to the earth as man and returned back into invisible and many people saw him return to the invisible. Is that proof of Pararnormal?
Who SAYS he came from the invisible TOP HAT??
Who SAYS he returned back to the invisible??
MEN!!
That is as far from proof of the paranormal as my arse looking like Cameron Diaz.
You choose to believe the unsubstantiated words of men from 2,000 yrs ago??
Think again.
Peace
Lowden
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personal and more than likely good reasons.
and after reading the .
To quote Terry from a similar debate a while back:
"Extraordinary claims require EXTRAORDINARY PROOF!!!!!"
Peace
Lowden
yes, it's official!
in the new system jehovah's witnesses will still have to attend the terrible meetings for all eternity!!!!!!.
the watchtower, november 1st, page 31, para 16:.
Gill
There's a kid in the cong' i was associated with (he'll be 24 now ) and he got 8 or 9 'O' levels at grade A when he took his finals. He could have gone really far and had a truly brilliant career. A very bright boy indeed.
He now works in a bloody PIE SHOP!!!!! AAAAARRRGH!!
Lowden.
yes, it's official!
in the new system jehovah's witnesses will still have to attend the terrible meetings for all eternity!!!!!!.
the watchtower, november 1st, page 31, para 16:.
'As the end draw near, we should be more determined than ever to attend our Christian gatherings for worship... Out of respect for the sacred nature of our meetings,we do not allow secular work, school homework, or evening schooling to cause us to miss out on meeting regularly with our fellow believer. We need the strenth that comes through association.'
Slightly off subject Gill but i seethe with anger when i read the WTS discouraging 'normal' educational practice. Bastards! I hate the WTS soooo much for this. But then of course, they want drones with a Watchtower labotomy. Poor JW kids, i feel really sorry for them. Alot of kids in the UK get stacks and stacks of homework, especially in the final 2 years. It's a huge pressure for them. Damn i HAAAATE the WTS!!!
Peace
Lowden
i often wondered this myself a lot growing up, and i must know.... if there was no paradise hope, no promise of living forever or having your dead loved ones resurrected....would you still serve your god and follow the organization?
would you have ever began studying with the witnesses for that matter or stayed in the ''truth'' if you were raised in it?.
because isn't that the golden ticket that jw's wave in front of their studies or interested ones?
Yes Kitty it's definitely the Golden Ticket thing going on here.
Remove all the rewards and who the hell would give a damn?
It's the carrot, the trap, the means of control.
If all the JWs were told tomorrow that god had changed his mind, or the WTS had got it wrong..."No reward...sorry", then everybody would be boozin' and throwing their knickers off...if ya get my drift.
Peace
Lowden
i think many will find this very interesting:.
http://www.friends-of-tibet.org.nz/dlama.html.
his holiness the dalai lamathe dalai lama, tenzin gyatso, is the spiritual and temporal leader of the tibetan people.
The plight of the Tibetan people is indeed sad.
China is guilty of crimes against humanity many, MANY times over.
People should read more about what has happened to the Tibetans at the hands of the Chinese. Truly shocking!!
Why the International Community allows this to carry on is beyond me. Sends shivers down my spine.
Peace
Lowden
so for our "congregation book study", we are still deeply mired in the bible teach book.
this week's lesson talks about the whole idea that the book of job relates the central issue of the entire cosmos, a vital issue raised by satan, where satan questions whether humans follow god because of what they are given, or because he deserves it.
i'm surprised that the book of job, obviously archetypal and figurative (for example, i doubt people back then literally spoke for hours in hebrew verse, and i doubt that four messengers showed up all in a row with stories telling that they, only they, got away to tell of a disaster) even has a place in the canon; aside from its lack of any specific historical position or accuracy, the argument it advances (especially as the society interprets it) is facile: the idea that privileged, wealthy, powerful job somehow stands as a representative for all humanity and serves as a litmus test for man's interaction with god is downright silly.
Mr E
Welcome to the forum.
God doesn't have to prove anything to anybody because God CANNOT LIE!!
If God says something is true....then it's true!! No human or spirit creature can question that because 'it is written'.
That is why the theoretical story that we are told by the WTS is hogwash.
So millions of people have had to die because of some debate between God and Satan. There is NO debate!! God has no NEED to debate.
"Satan?"
"Yes Jehovah?"
"You're wrong....get it? You know i'm telling the truth don't you...because i can't lie?"
"Yes Jehovah"
"So can man rule himself, independent of me and are they serving out of selfishness?"
"No Jehovah....of course you're right"
Thus no need for millions of deaths, of needless suffering and pain and unimaginable horror.
This sick excuse for all the suffering thatthe WTS dishes out is disgusting filth.
By the way i don't believe anymore, i won't putrify and fossilise my mind for one second more.
Peace
Lowden
