Posts by betterdaze

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Question for JW Lurkers: Did Jesus Pray Using the Name "Jehovah"?

by cabasilas in

a listing of prayers by jesus in the new testament can be found at this site:.

http://www.praylikethis.org.uk/theprayersofjesus.html.

(i can't say that the list is exhaustive, but i think it is at least representative.).

betterdaze

Since Jesus did not utter "Jehovah" when referring to God's "name," doesn't it make more sense that Jesus is referring to God's character, authority or reputation?

Yes. Jesus always spoke of the Father, NEVER the bloodthirsty Hebrew war diety YHWH / Jehovah. His "name" means the Father's reputation. Period.

This is why the "God is love" concept can never fit with YHWH / Jehovah "god" of the Hebrews, no matter how much Christians try to conflate or superimpose characters.

Jesus rejected that ancient hateful diety, as well as his contemporary Jews, especially the Pharisees and their spiritual slaves, who worshipped and were bound to YHWH.

YHWH was never the same as the Father. Jesus rejected YHWH worship, rebelled against the YHWH worshippers, and for that he was put to death.

~Sue

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Maps of War: History of Religion

by betterdaze in

how has the geography of religion evolved over the centuries, and where has it sparked wars?

map gives us a brief history of the world's most well-known religions: christianity, islam, hinduism, .

buddhism, and judaism.

betterdaze

[Bump]

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html

~Sue

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Jehovah is really speeding up the work!

by betterdaze in

haven't heard that one in ages.. have you?.

.

~sue.

betterdaze

ssn: Missing two from a six pack, That explains it.

Outlaw: The Pioneer Shuffle, LOL!

Heaven: Young ones leaving probably account for the most "activity in the ministry" today.

Billy the Ex: Faster in no time is correct. As in "never."

Slimboy: Thanks for the adjustment: "Jehovah is really speeding up the work, BUT all shall take place according to scripture... in its own time."

~Sue

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40 Years (a Generation) Past 1874, That's All it Was!

by OnTheWayOut in

here's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.

william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.

(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.

betterdaze

Wendell died in August of 1873, probably confident that his 1873 to 1874 date was correct.

And Russell died in October 1916, knowing very well that his 1914 date was dead wrong!

(Methinks Russell was forced to up-date it to 1915 to account for the lack of a "year zero" in newer editions of Studies in the Scriptures.)

It saddens me that I bothered to understand it at one time.

Yet posts like this, based on documented history, serve an educational purpose for those still in. Please be proud of that.

~Sue

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Look! I Am Making All Things New

by betterdaze in

are they actually still placing this brochure?

it came out when i was a teenager, and i'm over 40 now!.

yet i found it tacked up on my supermarket's bulletin board, with a message scrawled: .

betterdaze

Snagged a few more pubs over the weeks... They all say "Please Take," so I do! They are duly deposited into the paper recycling bin.

But there's never any local contact info.

You would think, IF they really had love for their fellow man and wished to save them from Armageddon, or at least start a "Bible study,"
they'd write the phone number to the local Kingdom Hall on it.

What a waste of time, effort, paper. *Sigh*

~Sue

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Jehovah is really speeding up the work!

by betterdaze in

haven't heard that one in ages.. have you?.

.

~sue.

betterdaze

Haven't heard that one in ages.

Have you?

~Sue

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Watchtower in Michael Jackson's Will???

by Confucious in

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friends

wallstreet journal today is reporting about mj's will.. they are saying that it's his mother, three children and "one or more" charities.. what do you think the odds are that the wt is one of them?.

i remember for the jackson's victory tour (a very long time ago) - that they donated most of that tour money to a "unnamed" charity.. and i always suspected that the wt were the recepients.. and thoughts?.

betterdaze

Here's a list of MJ's known charity work, no Watchtower mentioned.

Also:

HEAL THE WORLD

Michael Jackson set up The Heal The World Foundation in 1992. The foundation focuses on children aiming for there safe and healthy deveopment to be the world's priority. It aims to make the world aware of the rights and needs of all children around the world, also to help improve the world we live in, without violence and free of diseases.

More information can be found at the Heal The World's website at: http://www.healtheworld.com [site no longer in operation]

HEAL THE KIDS

Develpoed by Heal the World Foundation, Heal The Kids was launched in year 2000. Heal The Kids was set up to develop a campaign to help parents and adults around the world to educate them on the importance of reprioritizing their lives in order to bring children into the main focus in order to imbue them with the love and devotion which they so badly need and to stop the cycle of neglect. Give all at risk children more support and consideration from all sectors of society.

More information can be found at the Heal The Kids website at: http://www.healthekids.net [links to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach's site]

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is the author of the as yet unpublished manuscript, “Inside the Soul of Michael Jackson.”

~Sue

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District Convention ruminations

by sir82 in

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friends

if y'all can stand one more dc thread, i thought i'd post some miscellaneous rumbling ramblings about this year's edition.. to protect my privacy, i'd prefer not to disclose the location - pm me if interested.. ***** attendance, as in all other years i can remember, was much lower on friday than the other days.

in fact, the attendance was 22% lower on friday than on sunday.

so, as usual, they hammered home the point about the importance of attending all 3 days....on friday!

betterdaze

Oh, I misunderstood. Thought you were saying, that they said, this pre-1914 group was never anointed at all. Gotcha' now!

Thanks for sharing, I can appreciate how rough it is to sit through all that BS, and your notes help me in dealing with family still in.

~Sue

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District Convention ruminations

by sir82 in

jw
friends

if y'all can stand one more dc thread, i thought i'd post some miscellaneous rumbling ramblings about this year's edition.. to protect my privacy, i'd prefer not to disclose the location - pm me if interested.. ***** attendance, as in all other years i can remember, was much lower on friday than the other days.

in fact, the attendance was 22% lower on friday than on sunday.

so, as usual, they hammered home the point about the importance of attending all 3 days....on friday!

betterdaze

This "generation" is NOT all anointed Christians since 33 CE, but instead all anointed Christians since 1914.

WOW.

So what were all 100+ thousand faithful, now-non-anointed Christians prior to 1914?

Chopped liver?

~Sue

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Why We Suffer: reading suggestion

by behemot in

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friends

just finished reading this book, which i found very insightful:.

http://www.amazon.com/gods-problem-answer-important-question-why/dp/0061173975.

anyone read it?.

betterdaze

No, but thanks for mentioning it!

~Sue

God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question—Why We Suffer

by Bart D. Ehrman

In times of questioning and despair, people often quote the Bible to provide answers. Surprisingly, though, the Bible does not have one answer but many "answers" that often contradict one another. Consider these competing explanations for suffering put forth by various biblical writers:

• The prophets: suffering is a punishment for sin
• The book of Job, which offers two different answers: suffering is a test, and you will be rewarded later for passing it; and suffering is beyond comprehension, since we are just human beings and God, after all, is God
• Ecclesiastes: suffering is the nature of things, so just accept it
• All apocalyptic texts in both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament: God will eventually make right all that is wrong with the world

For renowned Bible scholar Bart Ehrman, the question of why there is so much suffering in the world is more than a haunting thought. Ehrman's inability to reconcile the claims of faith with the facts of real life led the former pastor of the Princeton Baptist Church to reject Christianity.

In God's Problem, Ehrman discusses his personal anguish upon discovering the Bible's contradictory explanations for suffering and invites all people of faith—or no faith—to confront their deepest questions about how God engages the world and each of us.