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I have a question

by XPeterX in

jw
friends

my friend had sex while he was an unbaptised publisher.now he is baptised but he never told the elders.is he still considered a sinner,not accepted by jehovah?.

betterdaze

Straightening up, Jesus said to her:

“Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?”

She said: “No one, sir.”

Jesus said: “Neither do I condemn you. Go your way; from now on practice sin no more.”

(John 8:10, 11)

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Watchtower Elders Disfellowship an Elder After Talk- Very Shocking And Troubling

by Scott77 in

from http://christianwitnesses.com/, i read the following below.

please what is your reaction to the action of the two elders?

if the account is colloborated, then its very troubling and shocking to say the least.

sneaky photo used in the new york magazine story

by Aussie Oz in

anybody else notice this?.

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oz.

"You can't judge a book by its cover."

My mom was given a black, leather-bound NWT with an addendum (Reasoning?) sewn into the back when she was baptized many years ago. It says "HOLY BIBLE" on the top of the cover, with her name at the bottom. This was during the psychedelic green NWT era.

I also met a brother who had returned from "serving where the need is greater" in the Bible Belt (Southern U.S.). He had trouble with householders spotting (and rejecting) his NWT, so he cleverly had it rebound with HOLY BIBLE stamped on it. He openly admitted that he disguised his NWT as a King James Version!

No doubt the WT supplied the photo and it is certainly deceptive. The bible pictured is unrealistically huge… nobody lugs something that heavy and bulky around in field service.

As it is, WT literature takes center stage: Both the Bible and that pesky Jesus guy are just stage props to sell magazines.

~Sue

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Why the Numbers Keep Increasing

by Georgiegirl in

jw
friends

have you ever read that riddle that asks if you would rather have a million dollars or a penny doubled every day for 30 days?

it shows how the penny eventually adds up over $5 million dollars in the course of month.. i think that's what's happening with the wtbs - it's not (obviously!!!

) holy spirit or anything other than simple incremental increase.

betterdaze

Recent report of "Outstanding growth" in Russia.

Jehovah is really speeding up the work!

~Sue

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Watchtower suppresses critical video

by besty in

as many of you know the active jehovah's witness known as v has a youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/wtcomments .

v has 27 videos and 1000 subscribers on his channel and over 200,000 views so far.

his most recent video is a satirical expose of the most recent generation doctrine change.

betterdaze

The cat's now out of the bag… as of this weekend the talk has been given publicly. Invitations were extended to the public.

I almost want to get gussied-up in a frumpy-frock, blend in at the Assemblies, and fake a histrionic Fred G. Sanford "big one" when they announce that the "generation" now "comprises two groups."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwM5KpoPPrg
~Sue

Jehovah's Witnesses' conventions begin today
Friday, May 21, 2010
Clifton Journal

CLIFTON — More than 50,000 Jehovah's Witnesses from the metropolitan area, including those from Clifton and Passaic will come to the Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses in Jersey City over 16 consecutive weekends for a 3-day event focusing on finding reliable direction and guidance from God's word the Bible.

According to Clifton resident, Jay Chosy, news service overseer for the first convention, Jehovah's Witnesses will host their annual conclave at the Assembly Hall at 2932 Kennedy Boulevard in Journal Square with the first convention beginning Friday, May 21. The venue was built in 1928 as the Stanley Theatre.

The 2010 convention theme is "Remain Close to Jehovah!" The program will focus on how reliable guidance can be found in the Bible to face the challenges of life. Many area residents will be featured in the talks, demonstrations, and interviews.

During the weekend of June 18 to 20, the convention presented that weekend will also include area residents on the program. Howard Carroll of the local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses and news service overseer for June 18 to 20 said that witnesses associated in the greater Clifton area anticipate an excellent turnout for this year's event based on the enthusiastic response to last year's convention. Witnesses look forward to welcoming many non-Witnesses to the convention as a result of the invitations that were and will be distributed three weeks prior to each 3-day program.

Some highlights of the three day program include the following:

Friday's program will feature a series of talks and interviews on how families can benefit from effective communication with each other especially in times of stress and challenges.

Saturday's program will provide much instruction on how to assist others to learn Bible truth as well as practical advice to avoid spiritual distractions. A feature of most Witness conventions, the baptism of new ministers will take place at noon on Saturday following a scriptural talk on dedication and baptism.

Three highlights of the program on Sunday will be the public talk "How Can You Draw Close to God?" which will be given on Sunday morning and the full costume Bible drama on Sunday afternoon that is set in the first century. It is about the flight from Jerusalem and is titled "Walk by Faith and Not be Sight." Following the drama, the convention will conclude with the talk, "Remain in the Secret Place of the Most High."

Jerrold Sameth, a Clifton resident, who will serve as program overseer for the June 18 to 20 convention noted that the program will begin each day at 9:20 a.m. and conclude at 5 p.m. on Friday and Saturday, and 3:40 p.m. on Sunday. Admission is free and no collections will be taken.

A peak attendance of 3,700 is expected for both the May 21 to 23 and June 18 to 20 conventions.

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"Outstanding growth" in Russia: jw-media.org propaganda

by betterdaze in

quote from "could it happen again?

" tract distributed in russia, march 2010:.

in russia today, there are over 157,000 active jehovahs witnesses in more than 2,000 congregations.

betterdaze

Quote from "Could It Happen Again?" tract distributed in Russia, March 2010:

In Russia today, there are over 157,000 active Jehovah’s Witnesses in more than 2,000 congregations. Another 125,000 people in this land enjoy studying the Bible with the Witnesses.

According to the jw-media.org press release below, there was "outstanding growth" of…

are you with me…

1,925 active members!

12 MILLION tracts littered amongst a population of 141,950,000… I'm getting the number 0.00016 for a "success" rate, LOL. Someone please check my math? ;–)

~Sue

May 6, 2010?(Russian)

Peak membership for Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia

In a sea of resistance there is growth

ST. PETERSBURG—The number of Jehovah’s Witnesses, who are still regarded as a minority faith in Russia, increased in the month of March, even though in recent months they have encountered extraordinary resistance. They recorded a peak of 158,925 active members.

Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide are known for their peaceful but active involvement in their communities, their engagement in the Christian mandate to spread “good news of good things” and to “make disciples of people of all the nations.”—Romans 10:15; Matthew 28:19, 20.

However, since early 2007, some authorities in Russia have put forth concerted effort to severely limit the activities of the group. The Witnesses, who function through approximately 2,000 congregations, or communities, in Russia have been subjected to at least 600 investigations. These were in response to the written directives of the General Prosecutor’s Office of Russia. By the end of the year 2009, seven court cases stacked up in various regions, all attempting to label the Christian publications and the local congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses as “extremist” and ban them. Two of those cases—one in Taganrog and another in Gorno-Altaysk—have already met their objective, with a total of 52 Witness publications being put on a national registry of extremist literature.

Undeterred, Russian Jehovah’s Witnesses, as members of an internationally recognized religion that is operating legally in some 200 countries around the world, have responded to the threats in the most open way they know—they talk to their neighbors about what is happening. Some 12 million copies of the tract “Could It Happen Again? A Question for the Citizens of Russia” were shared, offering individuals in Russia the opportunity to decide for themselves if history is about to repeat itself with a return to the repression of freedom of worship that marked the Soviet era.

Despite the outstanding growth in membership and the significant attendance at the commemoration of the Lord’s Evening Meal, Jehovah’s Witnesses are aware of the resistance against them that has also grown proportionately. Over 230 incidents of raids, arrests, searches and other disruptions of worship have been catalogued since the December 8 Supreme Court ruling.

Contacts:

In Russia: Grigory Martynov, telephone +7 812 702 26 91
In USA: J.R. Brown, telephone: +1 718 560 5600

Last updated 06 May 2010 22:08:26 GMT
Copyright © 2010 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. All rights reserved.

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Angry mob pelt Assembly Hall with stones

by iknowall558 in

jw
friends

http://stuffofinteresttojws.blogspot.com/2010/05/brother-remain-calm-during-assembly.html.

betterdaze

Molotov cocktails hurled at Pais Lottery auditorium in Holon

Published:
05.01.10, 23:54 / Israel News

Two Molotov cocktails were hurled at the Pais Lottery auditorium in Holon Saturday. No injuries were reported, however damage was caused to the building.

Earlier on Saturday dozens of haredim hurled stones at the site, which hosted a Jehovah's Witnesses conference. (Yoav Zitun)

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Angry mob pelt Assembly Hall with stones

by iknowall558 in

jw
friends

http://stuffofinteresttojws.blogspot.com/2010/05/brother-remain-calm-during-assembly.html.

betterdaze

Haredim protest 'missionary activity' in Holon

Some 100 ultra-Orthodox men hurl stones at sports hall in central city during Jehovah's Witnesses conference, call police officers 'Nazis'

Yoav Zitun

Published:

05.01.10, 15:20 / Israel Ne

Some 900 people on Saturday participated in a conference of the Jehovah's Witnesses denomination in the central city of Holon. The event was held under tight security at a municipal basketball hall in the Kiryat Sharet neighborhood.

Watch the video filmed by one of the participants.

At around 11 am, about 100 ultra-Orthodox men arrived in the area and began hurling stones and potatoes at the building, smashed its windows and tried to break in. They were stopped by a police force and security guards.

The haredim continued to stand outside the building, chanting "Nazis" at the police officers and "Russians, go back to Russia" at the participants.

One of the security guards told Ynet, "One of the haredim kicked me in the back, while the others chanted, 'Death to the Zionists.' We were lucky that the police were here from the very beginning.

Smashed windows (Photo: Yoav Zitun)

Another guard, who stopped the protestors from entering the hall, added that "at first there were only a few of them, and then masses suddenly arrived. They wouldn't stop cursing, and only stopped when their rabbi told them to."

The police said no arrests had been made.

The organizers of the event, which takes place once every few months, had prepared for the haredi protest in advance after spotting signs hung in the neighborhood on Friday, calling on the public to demonstrate against the conference.

'Jewish souls hunted for money'

Under the banner, "Beware – missionaries in Holon!!!", the ads distributed around the neighborhood warned that "damned evil people are here to murder people and souls in Israel, like in the days of the inquisition, when Jews were slaughtered cold bloodedly.

"These are the corrupt missionaries who are hunting Jewish souls for money. Different elements calling themselves 'Jews' are helping these criminals carry out their scheme in public, for a bribe, and have allowed them to come to our city Holon and preach their impure and poisonous beliefs."

Genadi Korobov, one of the organizers, was addressing the audience as the building was pelted with stones. "This is the third time in the past year that we visit Holon. We are already used to the haredi objection, but the amount and size of the stones we were hit with today was unusual," he said.

"In the middle of my address, we suddenly heard the windows being smashed, and very large stones landed on the hall's parquet, right next to disabled people in wheelchairs, who were sitting in special places. Luckily, no one was hurt, but we were forced to move the disabled audience to the center of the hall.

Korobov noted that despite the violent protest, the conference – which included lectures, lessons and prayers – continued as planned under the banner, "Time is running out."

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You Tube Takes Down Video on DC Release - Copyright Complaint

by cabasilas in

just saw that the recent video by watchtower comments on this summer's district convention release with a photo of the script from the sunday convention talk has been taken down by you tube based on a copyright complaint by the watchtower society.. see about 2/3 of the way down this article (it gives the now dead link with you tube's explanation that the wt filed the complaint -- click on the embedded video to see):.

http://orthocath.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/watchtower-leaders-trying-to-salvage-1914-teaching/.

the link to the embedded video worked fine yesterday.. guess they weren't happy about it..... is the text of that script available anywhere?.

betterdaze

That's the image I just removed, don't wish to cause any problems for Simon.

This outline will be read to MILLIONS of people all over the globe this summer, but the legal pu$$ies who run the Watchtower money laundering racket claim copyright for a Youtube video? Pathetic.

~Sue

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You Tube Takes Down Video on DC Release - Copyright Complaint

by cabasilas in

just saw that the recent video by watchtower comments on this summer's district convention release with a photo of the script from the sunday convention talk has been taken down by you tube based on a copyright complaint by the watchtower society.. see about 2/3 of the way down this article (it gives the now dead link with you tube's explanation that the wt filed the complaint -- click on the embedded video to see):.

http://orthocath.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/watchtower-leaders-trying-to-salvage-1914-teaching/.

the link to the embedded video worked fine yesterday.. guess they weren't happy about it..... is the text of that script available anywhere?.

betterdaze

Is the text of that script available anywhere?

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xqo11q
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/193069/1/Try-again-DC-2010-Discourse-48

(edited to remove an image)

~Sue