Posts by betterdaze

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

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my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

betterdaze

I don't care if the OP is trolling. It's important to demonstrate to sincere parents and searchers what children are exposed to in this criminal cult.

Look at this connect-the-dots activity. It's Lot's wife being destroyed by Jehovah. Fun stuff, huh?

Lot's wife is the disobedient villain. Lot is the obedient hero. After offering his daughters to a mob for gang rape, he has intercourse with them himself. Jehovah doesn't bat an eyelash. This normalizes incest to young children.

You never know when one of the men on the Kingdom Hall platform will relate this story to your kids. And it's not just a story: It's historic fact that absolutely must be believed to the point of expulsion from the congregation. They will also talk about masturbation, prostitutes and homosexuality with no regard for tender years. You okay with that?

Now meet Caleb. He's guilty of having "worldly" friends at school who gave him a make-believe toy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnS9odZqSqI

Do not be shocked to find toys you lovingly gave your children chucked in the trash, especially birthday gifts, as they are forbidden. No more Disney, no Harry Potter, and just forget about Christmas, Easter and Halloween, even the 4th of July. All bad, all the time.

Dano3456, it's not just the adults. The other kids at the Kingdom Hall, especially the nasty-ass elders' kids, will bully them into compliance. I was onced asked by a girl my age: What do you want to be when you grow up? It was a trick question. I answered archeologist but really any profession was the wrong answer. The only acceptable answer was full-time pioneer married to a Bethelite. She bullied me all summer long over that "selfish" answer.

Witness kids are not allowed to have dreams and ambitions, a future of their own choosing. That would "make Jehovah sad."

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Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations

by jambon1 in

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i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.

i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.

maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..

betterdaze

Bumping for Dano3456.

Source: Chapter 47, How We Can Tell Armageddon Is Near, Learn From the Great Teacher

Edited to add: See also, What are the worst pictures in My Book of Bible Stories?

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

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friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

betterdaze

If I suspect anything dangerous then I will stop it.

It is dangerous by design: Watchtower actually has a scrubbed-up "public" edition for proselytizing and an internal "study" edition they use at the meetings with threatening Armageddon horror stories.

Click this topic on Watchtower's Armageddon illustrations to get an idea of how your children will be terrorized into "serving Jehovah."

See all those people dying or about to die? That's you and your wife and your extended families, neighbors, co-workers, anyone including children who doesn't serve Jehovah. In six years, how come your "friends" never told you this? Because you'd think they were batshit crazy and keep your precious children away.

Sending children to the Kingdom Hall is like feeding them into the bloody maw of a giant sausage making machine. Ground minds and shredded lives come out the other end. Have your "friends" told you about the many suicides, wrecked marriages, alienated relatives, stunted schooling, alcohol dependence and/or PTSD yet? Why not? It's all Satan's fault, you know. Besides, Jehovah will fix everything after Armageddon.

Please be warned: Once your children are old enough to understand the emotional abuse they were exposed to, they may never forgive you. It can take years to address the phobias these "friends" will have implanted in their delicate little brains.

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Please help

by Dano3456 in

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friends

my wife and i are not religious nor do we want to be.

we are very set in our spiritual beliefs.

we have worked with a jw who's family have been like a part of our family for 6 years.

betterdaze

Welcome, Dano3456. Your post puts a chill down my spine.

Your sneaky "friends" crossed a line that can never be uncrossed when they usurped your parental authority in regards to family religious instruction. It appears your young family may have been specifically targeted to count indoctrination time as easy hours to be reported back to Watchtower Headquarters.

You should know that children are little more than fresh flesh for these religious vampires. They've already started the grooming process. Most likely they've been showing your kids videos and reading them Watchtower cult litterature behind your backs since day one. It's how they operate.

Without your knowledge or permission, they've paraded your children around like trophies to a bunch of strangers with a long, sordid history of child abuse both mental and physical. As already mentioned, they put your children at risk of contact with unreported sexual predators as well.

It's not enough to put your foot down, or up their ass as the case may be, and tell them no more Kingdom Hall meetings. They will most certainly defy your wishes and continue to "inculcate" your kids with videos, litterature, and age-inappropriate discussions aimed to divide your family and turn your children against you in ways you cannot even begin to fathom.

So, enough with the "free" babysitting.

They have an agenda with your kids, and you are no part of it.

My advice is to cut these people out of your lives like a cancer. They don't respect you now, and they never will.

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Italian translation needed for Watchtower Letter!

by Atlantis in

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2020-02-19 letter.

italian translation needed to verify if the coronavirus has suspended the preaching activity.

i think that is what this letter is about.. .

betterdaze

You're welcome.

From Awake! 2016 #6: How to Reduce Your Risk During an Epidemic

In 2014, the Ebola virus spread rapidly throughout West Africa, making headlines around the world. ... Witness representatives explained how they handled the situation. ...

What practical steps did Jehovah’s Witnesses take?

We used infrared thermometers to check the temperature of those arriving for meetings at our places of worship. Everyone carefully avoided unnecessary physical contact, such as shaking hands or hugging, and washed their hands frequently throughout the day. At strategic locations throughout the communities, handwashing stations were set up with a bleach solution.

How was it possible to continue your regular public meetings and Bible-teaching work?

The government imposed quarantines in some areas, so public meetings were canceled for a time. In those areas, families met at home for their worship. Some conducted Bible studies over the phone to minimize physical contact.

What happened if someone showed symptoms?

Authorities were notified. Any individuals who had been in contact with an Ebola victim, had attended a funeral of a victim, or showed symptoms kept themselves isolated for 21 days, the commonly accepted maximum incubation period for the Ebola virus.

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Italian translation needed for Watchtower Letter!

by Atlantis in

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friends

2020-02-19 letter.

italian translation needed to verify if the coronavirus has suspended the preaching activity.

i think that is what this letter is about.. .

betterdaze

(From Google Translate)

TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN ITALY

Subject: Coronavirus epidemic

Dear brothers,

Jesus prophesied that the last days would be marked by an increase in natural disasters, including epidemics (Luke 21: 11). In this regard, we are closely monitoring the progress of the coronavirus epidemic which is progressively involving several countries. Even in Italy some cases of contagion have recently occurred. In these situations it is wise to apply the principle set out in Proverbs 14:15, where it reads: "The naive believes in everything he is told, but the shrewd one evaluates every step he takes."

What preventive measures would be appropriate to take in such situations? First of all, it is of fundamental importance to follow the indications issued by the local authorities, including those which could provide for the isolation of large sections of the population at home. Furthermore, in case of fever, general malaise or other symptoms similar to those of seasonal flu, it would be a demonstration of Christian love not to go to meetings or assemblies or attend other crowded places where the infection could easily spread (Phil. 2: 4). Even in the absence of symptoms, it would be appropriate to avoid unnecessary physical contact by limiting expressions of greeting and affection, such as kisses, hugs and handshakes (od p. 197). Washing your hands often throughout the day is another simple but effective criterion for limiting infections. Keeping disinfectants (such as hydroalcoholic gels) handy can also be an effective measure.

If ordered by the authorities, congregation meetings and other theocratic meetings should be suspended. If so, we are confident that you will follow the instructions that will be provided to you by the congregation elders. Other useful tips can be found in n. 6 of Awake! of 2016.

In conclusion, if on the one hand it is wise to avoid alarmism, on the other we do not wish to underestimate the problem (Prov. 27: 12). We are confident that you will apply the reasonable precautionary measures that we have suggested you take for your own good, that of your families and the entire congregation.

We love you and on this occasion we confirm all our brotherly affection.

Your brothers,

Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

cc: To all circuit overseers in Italy

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Michael Bloomberg—what’s your opinion of him?

by minimus in

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and do you think he has a chance to win it all?

?.

betterdaze

He is a do as I say not as I do liberal idiot.

Calling Mike Bloomberg a liberal is an insult to liberals. He switches party affiliation as frequently as most change their underwear. Don't fall for his current Democrat act, it's just a means to an end. The end of U.S. freedom.

Bloomberg is authoritarian, statist, and probably sociopath. He stomps on others' civil and constitutional rights with no conscience.

One day he uses police force to target Black and Latino males on public streets.

Once elected he'll use military force to confiscate private arms in private homes.

Who needs probable cause (or a search warrant) when you're the most powerful little man on Wall Street?

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TV actress Ja'Net Dubois has passed away.

by NoAbuse in

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she was very active in the 1970's then kind of faded away.

i remember her mostly as "weezy" on 'the jeffersons' but she also played the mother 'mrs.

evans' on 'good times'.

betterdaze

Willona. Her character's name was Willona and Janet Jackson played her daughter Penny.

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What happens to bethel members who get sick?

by JimmyYoung in

so i am sure if you are at bethel and have the flu you just get time or what ever to recover, but what about serious sickness.

say you get cancer or some possible terminal illness?

what happens?.

betterdaze

Those oldsters who know too much get sent to Fishkill. Once the accountant$, lawyer$, real e$tate dealers start getting dementia it's too risky to farm them out to worldly facilities.

Jehovah's Witnesses contract to buy third Fishkill property

The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York has a purchase contract with AVR Realty, the private developer active in that area, to acquire a project under construction, LaColla said.
The project is known as the Chelsea Senior Living facility and was being built by a unit of AVR to serve as a combination of assisted living facility, independent living for seniors and some townhouses, he said.

800 Sacandaga Loop #1000 was sold November 2015 for $4.5 million. It's listed as a "private hospital".

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Iowa Democratic Caucus - Just WOW

by Simon in

there was a babylon bee or onion spoof article a few weeks back claiming the democrats would lose their own caucus and ... well, they managed to do it for real.. apparently they can't count their own votes, their app and process is now steeped in corruption (created by a company called 'shadow' that has taken money from multiple candidates as well as the dnc and has links to clinton) and multiple candidates have declared themselves the winner.

biden has apparently done so badly that he's going to court to block the results being announced.

no estimate of when they will be released even.. how do they come up with this ... and what does it mean for the election results where they oversee the counts?.

betterdaze

Buttigieg paid Shadow $42,500 last summer and declared himself the victor before any official results had been released. #MayorCheat