A problem is that very many bogus disfellowshippings have taken place. When the Society's policies on this issue are called into question what do they do? They swing even farther to the radical right making their policy on this matter appear even more ridiculous.
twain30
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CAN YOU BE DISFELLOWSHIPPED AND STILL BE EFFECTIVE
by minimus inin view of the fact that bill bowen and others who have supported the silentlambs agenda have been disfellowshipped, do you think this means the end of their effectiveness?
comments on the board suggest that now, jw's won't come forward to bill because witnesses won't want to talk to a disfellowshipped person.
and some have said that this was the reason why they were fighting their disfellowshipping.
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Using The Word "Coward"
by twain30 inone circuit overseer recently stated that those who are speaking against "mother" are such cowards that they can't even use their names, they hide their identity!
so why would you want to listen to degenerates like that?.
this called some interesting thoughts to mind: were the french resistance cowards because they hid their identities from the nazis?
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One Circuit Overseer recently stated that those who are speaking against "Mother" are such cowards that they can't even use their names, they hide their identity! So why would you want to listen to degenerates like that?
This called some interesting thoughts to mind: Were the French Resistance cowards because they hid their identities from the Nazis? In my opinion they were heros. In the South American jungle is a jaguar cowardly for working around army ants or for not swimming with piranha fish? A jaguar is a courageous animal that just avoids foolish circumstances.
Instead is a coward not one who uses numbers and circumstances to shut out others and lord it over them and to be intolerant of other's opinions?
By this definition would not every Jehovah's Witness who's ever done the preaching work underground so as to avoid persecution be a coward for not openly revealing his identity?
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What worries the Governing Body the most?
by roybatty inif you were a governing body member (or one of the power brokers at bethel) what would worry you the most?
i was thinking about this last night.
do you worry about the lawsuits connected with the pedophile cover-up?
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elders who don't march in lock-step
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A Little Greek is a Dangerous Thing
by Stephanus in(apologies to any little greeks!
you know what i mean - a guy who's had no formal training in biblical greek who keeps digging up "treasures from the original".
i gave a couple of examples in the greek synonyms thread.. i once had an argument (by mail) with a christadelphian who was arguing that the use of the middle voice in a verse in hebrews meant that jesus had to die for his own salvation, not that of anyone else!
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twain30
Remember the entire Watchtower article explaining the Greek word Tote' which literally means "Then" in relation to Mathew chapter 24?
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Reporting Time
by dsgal in.
i read on another post that something new was started at the last elder's meeting about "turning in time" or "getting time in".anybody know what it is?
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twain30
Counting field-service time has a disingenuos effect on the Bible's message. Now the motivation for preaching becomes pleasing men with the amount of time you report. A spirit of competition is also encouraged.
These days book study conductors are being pressured to get the publishers to turn in their time as never before, now its become much more of an issue. In turn the publishers are prssured by the book study conductor. If ones fail to turn their time in, the book study conductor is called to the carpet.
As a result of this process many pad their hours and placements to give a good appearance so as not to be hassled.
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The Phrase "Present Truth"
by twain30 ini am puzzled by the expression, "present truth" as used buy the wbts.
for example: "we must keep in step with present truth.
" now to me something is either true, partially true, or untrue.
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Re: To Bodhisattva
Expression "Present Truth" not found in NWT-I checked concordance. The scripture you referenced at 2 Pet 1:12 reads: "For this reason I shall be disposed always to remind you of these things, although you know them and are firmly set in the truth that is present in you."??
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A day in field service
by dsgal in7:30-too early to get up on a saturday morning but the co is visiting and i must show up to make our cong.
9:00 - arrive at kh, smile and say "good morning" to everyone (even though i'm still half asleep).
he visited had 69 people when he was there.
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twain30
A sister once told me that counting our time is a necessarry evil, that way the preaching work can proceed in an organized manner, brothers in charge can keep track of weak publishers, weak congregations, etc. I am against the whole precept of counting time because it encourages an entirely wrong motivation for talking to others about the Bible. I know for a fact that many pad their hours, placements, etc. because so much pressure is placed on the friends to show a good report. With the new arrangements that were put into place at the last elders school this is especially true. In short, the statistics given are not true statistics, this process of counting time has skewered the preaching activity.
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The Phrase "Present Truth"
by twain30 ini am puzzled by the expression, "present truth" as used buy the wbts.
for example: "we must keep in step with present truth.
" now to me something is either true, partially true, or untrue.
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I am puzzled by the expression, "Present Truth" as used buy the WBTS. For example: "We must keep in step with present truth." Now to me something is either true, partially true, or untrue. If were unsure about something we should say, "I'm not sure" not, "This is present tuth." Some time ago I brought this up to a Circuit Overseer, he just nodded his head at me and said, You just don't get it."
Please explain-what did I fail to understand?
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How You Can Encourage Mental Illness
by metatron infirst, you need to identify some outward signs of mental illness and then find ways to encourage their manifestation.
paranoia: remember, you live in a world controlled by the devil and.
his demons.
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Re: Metatron
Which is why I come here, it serves as a counterbalance and helps me keep my sanity!
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Bethel Lurkers! Let People Go
by metatron init should be obvious by now that the society's vindictive policies.
are having a negative effect.
how many angry and disgruntled.
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twain30
I am very much against the degree that Disfellowshipping is taken to. A number of ones have confided things in me and very carefully I have handled these matters on my own so that the person would be spared the emotional rape of a Judicial Committee, and spared the humiliation of being a second class citizen from then on. I don't feel at all guilty about having done this.
The point has been made that, "Its not a Democracy its a Theocracy." One thing is also true: Communistic force doesn't work.