i was going to post the follow thread, but i've used up my posts for today, maybe you could do it for me?
ok folks, i'm going to attempt to write a comphrensive thread on this subject and update it over the next few days so i will be ready for my appeal hearing (which i heard at the memorial might be this coming monday).
i went to the library at mcmaster and checked out every book by grayson i could find.
Well maybe we could all do a three way on MSN sometime. PM me for my E-mail address. Checking all the references I just posted against Grayson, good God, what a bunch of liars! I'm taking pictures of the pages and am going to post them here like I did with the other thread I started today with the bound volume I 'borrowed'.
I'm heading to the library now to check on some of the other sources the WTS has quoted from.
what a crappy morning i'm having.
first i over slept i was reading coc till one in the morning and woke up late, then i decided to walk to work, it's only a 15 min.
walk.
(((((((((((((lola))))))))))))))))
Don't forget to record the meeting!
Today, about 10 mintues ago!
i was going to post the follow thread, but i've used up my posts for today, maybe you could do it for me?
ok folks, i'm going to attempt to write a comphrensive thread on this subject and update it over the next few days so i will be ready for my appeal hearing (which i heard at the memorial might be this coming monday).
i went to the library at mcmaster and checked out every book by grayson i could find.
The Watchtower sure does like Grayson
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w80 8/15 p. 11 Insight on the News ***According to the "Star," Kirk Grayson, who is a professor of Near Eastern studies at the University of Toronto, says: "You can’t trust the Assyrian inscriptions because of the hyperbole." Citing one example of inscribed untruth, he tells of a 100-line account about a certain alleged military victory by Assyrian King Sennacherib. But the newspaper adds: "Grayson says that other more reliable sources point out that Sennach[e]rib received a sound thrashing in the fight."
Ancient inscriptions may relate to historical incidents and may thus be of interest to many people, including Bible students. For instance, King Sennacherib is mentioned in the Scriptures. (2 Chron. 32:1-23) But when confronted with a question of reliability, will you accept the words of these inscriptions or the Bible record? Before answering, remember that Jesus Christ said in prayer to God: "Your word is truth."—John 17:17.
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si p. 156 Bible Book Number 33—Micah ***Assyrian
and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, page 73.***
it-2 p. 865 Sargon ***In his annals Sargon made the claim: "I besieged and conquered Samaria (Sa-me-ri-na)." (Ancient Near Eastern Texts, edited by James B. Pritchard, 1974, p. 284) However, that appears to be simply a boastful claim by Sargon or those who sought to glorify him, in which the accomplishment of the preceding ruler was claimed for the new monarch. A Babylonian chronicle, which may be more neutral, states concerning Shalmaneser V: "He ravaged Samaria." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 73) The Bible, at 2 Kings 18:9, 10, states simply that Shalmaneser ‘laid siege’ to Samaria and that "they got to capture it." Compare 2 Kings 17:1-6, which says that Shalmaneser the king of Assyria imposed tribute on Hoshea, the king of Samaria, and then states that later "the king of Assyria captured Samaria."
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it-2 p. 616 Persia, Persians ***Evidence that Artaxerxes Longimanus ruled beyond his 41st year is found in a business document from Borsippa that is dated to the 50th year of Artaxerxes. (Catalogue of the Babylonian Tablets in the British Museum, Vol. VII: Tablets From Sippar 2, by E. Leichty and A. K. Grayson, 1987, p. 153; tablet designated B. M. 65494)\
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it-2 p. 505 Nineveh ***With reference to Nineveh, a Babylonian chronicle reports: "They carried off the vast booty of the city and the temple (and) [turned] the city into a ruin heap." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. Grayson, 1975, p. 94; PICTURE, Vol. 1, p. 958)
*** it-2 p. 410 Minni ***If the Mannai or Manneans were inhabitants of Minni, as some scholars say, then according to cuneiform inscriptions Minni was intermittently under subjugation, first by the Assyrians and then by the Median Empire. According to a Babylonian chronicle, in his tenth year of reign (636 B.C.E.) Nabopolassar "captured the Manneans who had come to their (i.e. the Assyrians’) aid." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 91) But by the time Babylon fell in 539 B.C.E. Minni was dominated by the Medo-Persian Empire.
*** it-2 p. 359 Medes, Media ***The Medes had been growing in strength despite Assyrian incursions and now came to constitute Assyria’s most dangerous rival. When Nabopolassar of Babylon, the father of Nebuchadnezzar, rebelled against Assyria, Cyaxares the Mede allied his forces with the Babylonians. Following the Median capture of Asshur in Nabopolassar’s 12th year (634 B.C.E.), Cyaxares (called Ú-ma-kis-tar in the Babylonian records) met with Nabopolassar by the captured city, and they "made an entente cordiale." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 93)
*** it-1 pp. 452-453 Chronology ***Jeremiah 52:28 says that in the seventh year of Nebuchadnezzar (or Nebuchadrezzar) the first group of Jewish exiles was taken to Babylon. In harmony with this, a cuneiform inscription of the Babylonian Chronicle (British Museum 21946) states: "The seventh year: In the month Kislev the king of Akkad mustered his army and marched to Hattu. He encamped against the city of Judah and on the second day of the month Adar he captured the city (and) seized (its) king [Jehoiachin]. A king of his own choice [Zedekiah] he appointed in the city (and) taking the vast tribute he brought it into Babylon." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 102; compare 2Ki 24:1-17; 2Ch 36:5-10.) (PICTURE, Vol. 2, p. 326)
*** it-1 p. 283 Belshazzar ***In another document, the Nabonidus Chronicle, a statement is found with regard to Nabonidus’ seventh, ninth, tenth, and eleventh regnal years. It reads: "The king (was) in Tema (while) the prince, the officers, and his army (were) in Akkad [Babylonia]." (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. Grayson, 1975, p. 108)
*** it-1 p. 1267 Jehoiachin ***It appears that Jehoiakim died during this siege and Jehoiachin ascended the throne of Judah. His rule ended, however, a mere three months and ten days later, when he surrendered to Nebuchadnezzar in 617 B.C.E. (in the month of Adar, according to a Babylonian chronicle). (2Ki 24:11, 12; 2Ch 36:9; Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. Grayson, 1975, p. 102)
*** it-1 p. 1025 Hamath ***According to an extant cuneiform inscription (British Museum 21946), after the battle of Carchemish in 625 B.C.E. (Jer 46:2), Nebuchadnezzar’s forces overtook and destroyed the fleeing Egyptians in the district of Hamath. (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 99)
Wow, that took a long time to upload. Forget it I'm to lazy to upload the whole issue like I was going to, but let me know what you think of what I got. I'm probably gonna list this sucker on E-bay soon
The pictures were to big to host on those sites so I put them here:
http://www.savefile.com/files/4704832 Frist page of frist issue of first watchtower ever written
http://www.savefile.com/files/8299703
http://www.savefile.com/files/8438031 - Inside Cover of Bound Volume
http://www.savefile.com/files/7688126 - Inside Cover Continued
Edit 1879-1887 bound volume simply titled Volume 1
How's that?
