Posts by hallelujah

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Jehovah as Satan - human sacrifice in the Bible

by hallelujah in

in the bible there is a human sacrifice of jepthah's daughter as a burnt offering at judges 11:29,11:39, in gratitude for giving jepthah victory in battle.

now the wtbts and others more recently proclaim that this was only a sacrifice of her virginity and that by sacrificing her as a burnt offering what it really meant was that she was forcibly restrained from having marital relations and forced to die a virgin.

do any sisters see any similarity with the injunction to sisters to only marry in the lord???

hallelujah

Wow Narkissos

This is even in the New World Translation. I'm blown away that the Bible itself considers human child sacrifice to Chemosh the God of Moab to be effective against the Israelites.

I wonder whether the authors of the New Testament after the Gospels are so profoundly influenced by Jesus that they try to place him in the context of the old testament. If so this would explain why more emphasis has been given to Jesus death which has been post hoc erga procter hoc deemed a sacrifice, than to his teaching.

2 Kings 3:27 certainly puts a new light on the interpretation of Jesus death as a ransom.

Thanks

Dan

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Attacking Satan by drawing scary pictures

by hallelujah in

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i was watching pictures of the stampedes at the haj and it occurred to me that throwing stones at the pillar of satan was a really ineffective way of dealing with evil in the world.

it occurs to me that drawing scary pictures of satan in the watchtower is similarly ineffective in combating evil.. any thoughts?

hallelujah

I was watching pictures of the stampedes at the Haj and it occurred to me that throwing stones at the pillar of Satan was a really ineffective way of dealing with evil in the world.

It occurs to me that drawing scary pictures of Satan in the Watchtower is similarly ineffective in combating evil.

Any thoughts?

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Jehovah as Satan - human sacrifice in the Bible

by hallelujah in

in the bible there is a human sacrifice of jepthah's daughter as a burnt offering at judges 11:29,11:39, in gratitude for giving jepthah victory in battle.

now the wtbts and others more recently proclaim that this was only a sacrifice of her virginity and that by sacrificing her as a burnt offering what it really meant was that she was forcibly restrained from having marital relations and forced to die a virgin.

do any sisters see any similarity with the injunction to sisters to only marry in the lord???

hallelujah

I haven't got it yet, though I've ordered it. I tried to read the bible but I got stuck at Judges 11:29 with the sacrifice of Jepthah's daughter.

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Do you still believe in JEHOVAH?

by lowden in

jw
friends

further to the thread that minimus stated about 'still believing'....what i want to know is do any of you stil believe in jehovah?

that is, the named god of the bible that sanctioned the genocide of millions of unbelievers.

as the israelites came into the 'promised land' god told them to devote to destruction 7 populous nations and not let a breathing thing live, or in other words commit genocide!!!

hallelujah

Why does the WTBTS depict God as a white male??? I thought no man or woman could lay their eyes on God and survive. Ipso facto the picture here is not of God our creator.

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Do you still believe in JEHOVAH?

by lowden in

jw
friends

further to the thread that minimus stated about 'still believing'....what i want to know is do any of you stil believe in jehovah?

that is, the named god of the bible that sanctioned the genocide of millions of unbelievers.

as the israelites came into the 'promised land' god told them to devote to destruction 7 populous nations and not let a breathing thing live, or in other words commit genocide!!!

hallelujah

The Hebrew scriptures are only related to the Greek because they have been printed together for a seventeen hundred years or so. T

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How much does it cost to be a JW

by osmosis in

ok the story i get from my jw relatives is that borg "isn't making money off them", but that never sat well with me.

i've always wondered how much money she contributed to the borg.. since i don't have the nerve to ask them, and they probably won't tell me the "truth" if i do, i'm asking you folks.. how much money does the average jw contribute to the cause?

how much do those silly magazines cost anyway?

hallelujah

The real reason why the WTBTS discourages witnesses to have children, it's not because the end is coming, it's because childless sheep give up their assetts to the society in their wills

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Jehovah as Satan - human sacrifice in the Bible

by hallelujah in

in the bible there is a human sacrifice of jepthah's daughter as a burnt offering at judges 11:29,11:39, in gratitude for giving jepthah victory in battle.

now the wtbts and others more recently proclaim that this was only a sacrifice of her virginity and that by sacrificing her as a burnt offering what it really meant was that she was forcibly restrained from having marital relations and forced to die a virgin.

do any sisters see any similarity with the injunction to sisters to only marry in the lord???

hallelujah

Thanks Cosmic

I've just seen too many people forgoing their lives in religious or quasi-"spiritual" cults and being told that everything will be given to them in a future life. (Buddhist = reincarnation, WTBTS = resurrection).

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Watchtower and the Masons - part 1

by truth_about_the_truth in

i will be posting contents of the book "watchtower and the masons" by fritz springmeier.

this is an extremely rare book that is currently out of print.

the information contained here is extremely important in determining what this organization is all about.

hallelujah

For the doubters, read the 1913 Convention Reports (scans in pdf format) at

http://www.exjws.net/museum/masonry.htm

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Was Jesus sacrifice really a sacrifice?

by jambon1 in

i would like to state firstly that i in no way intend to offend anyone.. its just when i was in the org i had major problems with the blood issue/death because of persecution.

many times we were taught that god does`nt ask us to do anything that he has`nt done himself.

now imagine everything the bible says about jesus really did happen.

hallelujah

Actually in the Gospels Jesus teaches us to love God our creator with all our being and to love thy neighbour as thyself. And this was while he was alive. Just the necessary stuff. None of this ransom garbage.

If Jesus was sacrificed to appease Jehovah's blood lust well that speaks for itself. If Jesus was sacrificed to appease a law above Jehovah and that law itself demanded innocent blood for humanities sins, well that's the law of the mob.

I prefer to read Jesus reported (and translated) words in the Gospels when he was alive rather than to the rabid murmurings about the "meaning" of his death.

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Was Jesus sacrifice really a sacrifice?

by jambon1 in

i would like to state firstly that i in no way intend to offend anyone.. its just when i was in the org i had major problems with the blood issue/death because of persecution.

many times we were taught that god does`nt ask us to do anything that he has`nt done himself.

now imagine everything the bible says about jesus really did happen.

hallelujah

No one really believes Mary was a virgin do they????