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  Do You Like This Place?

  by ISP in

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  there are criticisms from time to time......like er....fluff!

  not enough wt/jw attacking stuff.

  (yawn) i don't quite see it that way.

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  david_10

  There's hardly a day that goes by that I don't look at board and read up on the latest news. I was out of town for most of July, and the first thing I did when I got back was log on and see what I'd missed. However, I don't post very often. Even when there are subjects that I have strong feelings on, I usually stay quiet. I'm going to try to post more often, though, especially on the serious threads, which are the ones that I enjoy the most. But I find that posting is very emotionally draining and it really takes a lot out of me. Does anyone else have that problem, or is it just me?

  David
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  Ever lie on your service reports?

  by The_Bad_Seed in

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  *laughing just thinking about it*.

  did anybody out there lie on their service reports that they maintained the 'national average' when in reality you got .005 hours of service in any given month?

  i magically always used to always get "10" hours out in service, while nobody ever saw me at the groups, no one ever caught on, or seemed not to -- maybe they just didn't give a shit.. i always lied so i could keep my microphone 'privelidges' -- that being, the privelidge to walk around at the back of the hall giving my deflated ass a break from those awful chairs they had.

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  When I was pioneering back in the early 70's, pioneers had to get in 100 hours a month and so we learned ALL the tricks. Now I never actually lied on my report because that would have been stealing from Jehovah. But I became very skilled at manipulating numbers. The most common thing that I did was the Not - At - Home ploy. I had several not - at - homes scattered around and I would always start my time at one before meeting for service. Many times, I would get so desperate for time that I would go back and forth among these houses knowing that I would never have to talk to anybody. I know all the neighbors saw me and it's a wonder nobody ever called the police. I remember the struggle for time would get so fierce that toward the end of the month I would go to the train station and bus station around midnight to pass out magazines, usually by leaving them on a bench. I got to where I would do anything to get that time in. It was the only thing that mattered. Visit someone in the hospital or nursing home? Only if I counted my time. I had several elderly return visits and I would regularly go see them because I knew that they were so lonely they would always let me in and I could stay as long as I wanted and count the time, of course. Love had nothing to do with it. Thinking about it now makes me feel sick and ashamed. And it never dawned on me how fanatical and pointless it was. And all my pioneer partners, (with one exception, but that's another story), were the same way. We all thought that we were being blessed to put ourselves through that torture. After all, 1975 was bearing down on us and we were going to die if we didn't. And it didn't end there. Even after I was off the pioneer rolls, I was an appointed servant up until I left the Organization in 1987 and I had to do pretty much the the same thing, only on not quite as large a scale. My "privileges" were very important to me and I had to keep those hours up. I think back on those times and I just can't believe I did it.

  Sick and ashamed.

  David
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  Explanation of "All along the WatchTower&a...

  by Nicolas in

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  i found a strange explanation on this site: http://users.crocker.com/~lwm/all_along_the_watchtower/ .

  does bob dylan really wrote this song with this purpose?

  ?edited by - nicolas on 25 july 2002 20:57:37.

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  As much as I hate to agree with You Know on anything, I think he's right about this. In the the sixties, it was very common for songwriters to use vaguely worded phrases to make the stoned hippies believe that they were on a different spiritual plane than everyone else. The Beatles, the Doors, Dylan....they all did it and often admitted that the symbolism didn't mean anything. When asked to analyse "The End", John Densmore said "...the guys in the band don't even know what it means..." Regarding "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite", John Lennon said it didn't mean anything----he copied it practically word - for - word from a circus poster hanging in his living room. But letting the kids think differently sure sold a lot of records.

  David
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  Any muscian types on j-w.com?

  by pomegranate in

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  yes no?

  any examples on the net?

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  Rats! I can't believe that I missed this thread. For the past month, I've been at Interlochen serving on the piano staff and I just got back home. Anyway, I play the piano. Farkel, be sure to let us know when and where you download----I'd love to here you play.

  David
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  More trouble for AudioGalaxy?

  by david_10 in

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  about a month ago, heaven started a thread about ag going to court.

  i haven't heard whether this has happened or not, but i tried to download a couple of songs last night and found it impossible.

  no matter what the song or who the artist, popular, jazz or classical, copyrighted or not----nothing but xxxxxxx's.

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  Friendlyfella---Well, it sure can't be any plainer than that, can it. It's over. Thanks for linking that story.

  WonderWoman----Someone recommended WinMx, and I've tried it before, but I didn't like it too much. But I'm going to give it another try. In fact, I'm trying to download a song right now, but it's not doing much. I've never heard of Bearshare, but I'll download it and see how it goes. I'll let you know if it works. Thanks for the recommendation.

  David
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  More trouble for AudioGalaxy?

  by david_10 in

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  about a month ago, heaven started a thread about ag going to court.

  i haven't heard whether this has happened or not, but i tried to download a couple of songs last night and found it impossible.

  no matter what the song or who the artist, popular, jazz or classical, copyrighted or not----nothing but xxxxxxx's.

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  About a month ago, Heaven started a thread about AG going to court. I haven't heard whether this has happened or not, but I tried to download a couple of songs last night and found it impossible. No matter what the song or who the artist, popular, jazz or classical, copyrighted or not----nothing but XXXXXXX's. Is it over?

  David
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  How many Artists here? Which field of Art?

  by invisible in

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  i know i asked this absolutely yonks back, then by the name of celtic, but with so many newcomers here i thought no harm but to ask once again.. how many artists do we have here or working in art related fields including film, music, theatre, environment, gardening, sculpture, graphic design, illustration, fine art, photograpy etc etc?.

  what hobbies do you have?

  how do you see your future artistic horizons opening up?

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  All these talented people whose abilities have largely been squelched by the Organization. Sad. Myself, I'm a pianist and I mainly play classical music, although in the last few years I've lightened up a little and will play a little of everything. Right now, I'm on a Cole Porter kick. In my younger days, I was regarded as quite good and was encouraged to take the training and enter the competition circut. As Brando said in "On the Waterfront: "I coulda been a contenda." But 1975 was coming, and, much to the dismay of my teachers, I felt that pioneering was absolutely the only choice a healthy young Witness could make and I was proud to enter the Ministry. What a dummy. Recently, the Van Cliburn Foundation has instituted an amatuer competition in which the age restrictions have been lifted and the repertoire requirements have been eased a little, and my daughter is threatening to enter me, with or without my permission. The next one is in 2004, and I'm thinking about it.

  David
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  JR BROWN blames the elders, again.

  by LDH in

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  so did any of you catch the dateline snippet with the letter being read?.

  jr brown stated, "it is possible out of the 77,799 elders in the usa that a few of them did not follow directions.".

  ain't that a shock, jr pinning on those damned untrained volunteers again?.

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  Lisa---Simon must have moved this thread, because it took me a while to find it. Or maybe I'm going crazy.....

  Anyway, I'm still thinking out loud: If your Dad is an elder and has got some money, he might be in a more vulnerable position than most. But I've got a feeling that the companies that offer this type of insurance are going take one look at the Watchtower and their "untrained volunteer" arrangement and view elders the same way they look at drivers with a DWI conviction: too risky. Wouldn't touch them for anything. However, from following your posts for the last 8 or 9 months, you seem to be pretty level-headed and compassionate, and you had to have gotten it from someone. Probably your dad. So I'd bet that he's a pretty good shepard. There are a few good elders in the organization, you know. Not many, but a few. So he'll be OK.

  David
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  JR BROWN blames the elders, again.

  by LDH in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so did any of you catch the dateline snippet with the letter being read?.

  jr brown stated, "it is possible out of the 77,799 elders in the usa that a few of them did not follow directions.".

  ain't that a shock, jr pinning on those damned untrained volunteers again?.

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  david_10

  ....if I were you, I'd go get myself a personal liability policy.

  Perhaps a letter writing campaign to all local KHs advising all Elders to obtain Clergy Malpractice Insurance may be in order.

  
  Lisa---That's probably the best advice that an elder could follow. Why did you have to go and tell 'em?

  On the other hand, since very few elders have any money (and money is the only reason for bringing a civil lawsuit), it might be hard to get a lawyer interested in following through. If an insurance company was there to take up the slack and pay an award, more elders might wind up in court trying to explain their brainless actions. So elders might be better off without the insurance.

  Oh well....just thinking out loud.

  David
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  When Jehovah God Said "No!"

  by metatron in

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  the governing body and others pray for the unity and.

  wellbeing of the organization regularily.

  jehovah god keep answering "no!

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  david_10

  Questions from householders like 'which one of you
  two is the child molester' ???

  Metatron----That's the first thing I thought of: If I were still active and going in service, I'd be real sure to take all the doors by myself. Otherwise, I could just hear Mrs. Householder thinking: "Which one of these guys did it to a kid?"

  David

  PS....Always look forward to your great posts.