Hey buddy, I'm glad things worked out for you with the apartment, graduation, and the cruise. Are you going to advance your education or take some sort of trade course? What ever you do, keep making progress.
thecarpenter
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UPDATE: Alive and Kicking... ASS
by RichieRich ini'm joining everyone from the bowels of the sun princess, a ship belonging to the princess cruise lines.
about an hour and a half ago, we left the port of seattle for alaska.
my grandmother sent me and my grandfather on this trip for a graduation present.
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I'm going back to the JW's
by Honesty inif you can acccurately disprove the mathematics in the following i will be at the local kingdom hall first thing in the morning and ask the elders if i may rejoin them in worship.. here is some information i have compiled regarding what the watchtower has printed in regards to the babylonian kings and how the lengths of their reigns can be calculated to arrive at the date of the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar.
if you're like me you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.
as the date for the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar comes up.
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I'm going back to the JW's
by Honesty inif you can acccurately disprove the mathematics in the following i will be at the local kingdom hall first thing in the morning and ask the elders if i may rejoin them in worship.. here is some information i have compiled regarding what the watchtower has printed in regards to the babylonian kings and how the lengths of their reigns can be calculated to arrive at the date of the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar.
if you're like me you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.
as the date for the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar comes up.
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thecarpenter
I am a Watchtower Scholar, schooled in the Bethel University under professor T Jaracz. In reviewing your work, I realized the mistake you made which is pretty common with the those 'uneducated' in higher organization mathematics.
Nabonidus ruled Babylon until it fell in 539 B.C. to Cyrus.
Labashi-Marduk ruled for 9 months.
Neriglissar ruled for 4 years.
Evil-Merodach ruled for 2 years.
Nebuchadnezzer ruled for 43 years.
17 years + 9 months + 4 years + 2 years + 43 years = 66 to 67 years.
Starting at 539 B.C. and going back 66/67 years we arrive at 605/606 B.C. for the start of the reign of Nebuchadnezzer.
2nd Kings 25:8-10 tells us that Jerusalem was destroyed in the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzer's reign, so if we go forward 19 years from 605/606 B.C. we will have the approximate years of the destruction of Jerusalem.
Nineteen years after 605/606 B.C. brings us to 586/587 B.C. which agrees with all secular evidence.
17 years + 9 months + 4 years + 2 years + 43 years = 66 ~ 67 years
539 bc + 66 ~ 67 years = 605/606 years
605/606 bc - 19 years = 586/587 bc. .???????
The last step is where most 'uneducated' laymen make their mistake..... you forgot to factor in the bov-delta symbol which is necessary to arrive at a correct date when working with ordinal numbers in the pre-common era. (this corrective factor was discovered in the mathematic departments in UWNY and Patterson University under the leadership of Prof. K.Klein and distiguished Prof. F.Franz)
Let me demonstrate the formula.......
but for simplicity we shall substitute the bov-delta symbol........So lets do the math again 605/606 bc - 19 years /
I'll see you at the kingdom hall honesty.
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Easy, Healthful Snacks - Suggestions wanted.
by AudeSapere inthis is an extension of my other thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/114967/1.ashx) but seemed to warrant it's own heading since it will probably attract different people and can have so many other applications, too.. since i'm home alone nursing a broken ankle and injured knee, getting downstairs to make breakfast and other meals is pretty difficult right now.. .
does anyone have any suggestions for foods to keep upstairs that are reasonably healthy and do not require refrigeration?
i can bring up a coffee pot for coffee and tea.
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thecarpenter
These were all good suggestions, but eating corn out of a can..... brilliant idea. It never occurred to me you can do that (I'm doing it now). I always thought that the corn was half raw and you had to cook it. Learn something new everyday.
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I just wrote a 6 page letter
by Kero-kero ini addressed it to a couple of elders.
one elder i feel i can trust and one elder is in the congregation i used to attend.....*cough* still assigned to....it is just a letter which expresses my concerns and doubts and personal issues with the wts and congregation(s) i did not go it to much detail but it should be enough for them to at least understand my veiw point.
i have asked if they could reply to me...or at least make some kind of comment...even if it to just try and ease my doubts and concerns.
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thecarpenter
So Kero-kero, what happened? Did you meet with the elders?
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This is an odd example of a Witness at my door, any one heard of this?
by free2beme inabout two weeks ago i was in the front yard on a saturday and washing one of the cars.
i looked down the street and saw two woman in dresses walking from house to house, with a young child in a suit.
of course, i knew they were witnesses and i knew they would be at my door soon.
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thecarpenter
I live in a area that has different language groups (I've actually attended a non-english congo for a while) and we were instructed not to witness to english speaking people because the english brothers would take care of them.
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Where or what would you be today, if you would have never became a JW?
by JH in.
often i wonder what i would be doing or even where would i be living, if i would have never met the jw's back in the late 80's.. maybe it wouldn't have made any difference, or on the contrary, maybe a huge difference.
the only way to really know would be to go back in time and change what happened and that's impossible.. .
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thecarpenter
Well it is hard to say..... I was pursuing a career in tax/finance law when I started studying with the JW's. At this point, since shutting the JW philosophy out of my head, I am comtemplating another go at it part-time. I have a great job right now so money is not the issue but I always wanted to finish college and now I can pursue it without feeling guilty. And there are other worthwhile pursuits I want to take a look at.....
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FOR LURKING JW ELDERS- REVISED LIST
by jst2laws insorry to have to repost this but i screwed up the original thread so bad i can't even get in to 'edit'.
here is the current list of former (some present) elders.
for over a year i lurked as an elder on h2o and this board.
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thecarpenter
Any more elders or higher ups out there?
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the Power of Prayer?
by darcy ini was reading through the 'why i hate god' thread', and reflecting on my own experience with prayer.
i think the one most... relieving?
point was when i realized that i when i prayed i wasn't really trying to talk to jehovah, but i was talking myself through my own life.
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thecarpenter
I pray everyday, several times a day. I do believe in God and I do believe he hears.
He may not answer my prayer but that doesn't stop me from praying.
That doesn't mean I don't take control of my life, I feel you do everything you reasonable can do (proactiviness) and then let God handle the rest. -
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I find myself at this point in the same camp as Arthur, lovelylilly and JH. Although I no longer accept many of the teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, I still have a fundamental belief in the bible and that God inspired men to write it. I don't feel that it is without error because the men who wrote it are imperfect but the spirit of what is being said is God inspired. I personally feel that people are better off following the scriptures (although imperfectly) than to totally reject it and many of it ethical principles.
Of course, I have a healthy respect for science and empirical methods and I intend to dig a little deeper into evolution, archaeology and geology in the coming years but I don't feel this will uproot my belief system, but rather to help clarify some things a little bit. Trevor make a good point of having a rational approach toward religion, it has been used to uproot lives. But for me, there is too much intelligent design for there not to be a God, in fact creation is awe inspiring.
Lovelylilly makes a nice point...
Lastly, I believe that it is not important to understand everything in the bible in order to believe it is God inspired or for it to have relevance in our lives and in our faith. Because love is more important than our head knowledge or understanding all scripture. And were we are lacking in understanding, love will cover us.
but for simplicity we shall substitute the bov-delta symbol........