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  Keith Reddin's "Brutality of Fact" playing in NYC on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Dogpatch in

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  want to go see a play on jws and shunning in new york city?

  support jeffrey and his work, and you can even go for free!.

  randy.

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  thecarpenter

  I just sent seeker4, Larry, JohnnyCip, lonelysheep, stevenyc, soledad a pm, check your mail boxes.

  Hello all, I have assembled a small group (5 ex dubs so far) to see the play. If you would like to join us, you are welcome to. Check your pm for the date and how you can distinguish us. Afterward, we will probably go to a restaurant in the neighborhood to eat. I am picking up the tickets for the 5 of us this week. You should call (212) 868-4444 to reserve your ticket or order online at http://www.smarttix.com/ (JUST ENTER CODE "FMINDS" to get a discount $12 ticket)

  We will probably meet in front of the theatre at 7:30pm (Urban stages 259 W 30th St. (bet. 7th and 8th) Hope to see you there.
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  I have trust issues , but what do you think about this ....

  by troubled mind in

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  the reverend down the street has made friends with my son ...... yesterday we came down hard on our 18 yr old son because he has not gotten a job since graduation , and can not pay for his share of the cell phone or car insurance .

  so we took these privileges away until he can pay .

  well he must of went over to the rev's last night and the guy offered to give him $100.

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  oooh was that your boy I was offering the job to???
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  A Bad experience with JW is a permit for SIN?

  by El Mariachi in

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  i've been reading some sad experinces here... i dont see anyone talking about the bible... only how misserables the organization made their lives... ok ...so because of that...now i have permission to smoke marijuana and commit fornication?

  this sounds pretty much like aa... and everybody having his/her personal "superior power" who is giving them the permit to do whatever they want...

  i've been df for 4 years now and also dont agree with some jw teachings... why instead of blaming the wt for everything dont we look for the real truth in the bible and make things right.

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  thecarpenter

  El Mariachi, you need to relax and be a little less judgmental.
  
  I personally find certain types of behavior wrongs such as what you said "Adultery,Stealing,Murder,Lies,Drunkenes,etc,etc." But people make a choice in their lives and sometimes will have to pay the consequences. A friend of mine sometimes struggles with alcoholism and when he is slipping, I let him know out of concern. Sometimes he has to detox and go into rehab. I still consider him my friend and if I could help him overcome this weakness, I will. But I will not shun him and treat him like dirt. If you have problems with certain types of behavior, you have every right not to have that person over your house or over for a meal but don't hate the person or shun them. That is not the Christian way.
  
  

  I don't agree with everyone here but I find their posts interesting and sometimes very enlightening. In fact, it actually helps me to understand the bible and peoples point of view a little better. Latter on I plan to check out some churches locally and plan to keep God in my life. I also feel that creation gives too much testimony to a intelligent creator for things to happen by chance. There are many scientists who likewise feel this way as there are those who don't. State your case and let people decide.
  
  Take care
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  Watchtower Acceptance

  by The wanderer in

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  the hope

  promises of everlasting life in paradise earth are held.

  out to the newly associated individuals.

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  thecarpenter

  Hi Wanderer,

  I have been with the bOrg over 20 years and found myself disillusioned by it for the last 10 years. I was trying to find some rationalization to deal with the false prophecies, bad policies, lack of love, false friends and so on... the last ten years were years of misery. Finally this year I had enough. I did a lot of research on the net and read several books on the bOrg and mind control tactics. After doing that, I knew I could never go back and that I was going to have to start all over again.

  It has been not quite a year yet and already is falling into place now. It seems that every new experience outside the bOrg is a adventure. I can honestly say that I am having much more fulfillment now than before. I have met many nice non-witnesses and my telephone book is getting filled up again (it looked practically empty when I got rid of the witness 'friends'). I think the key with getting on with life is to welcome change (it is going to happen anyway) and taking the initiative of making positive things happen.

  Also, this board is very helpful in getting rid of any lingering guilt. Personally, I find the people here to be nice people that I would very much like to meet in a gathering and hang out with. Enjoy your stay with us.
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  Watchtower Camaraderie

  by The wanderer in

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  watchtower camaraderie

  after having spent years as one of jehovah's witnesses.

  the next day?going back to the organization .

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  thecarpenter

  There are a lot of things you can do to fight the loneliness

  1- fade out of the organization slowly while you build up your friend base

  2- see if you can exit the org. with a friend who is also sick of the org.

  3- go back to school - you will meet many people your age especially if you take weekend or evening classes. (for those over 25)

  4- attend another church (hopefully non-denominational that isn't controlling)

  5- volunteer you time to community projects

  6- join a club (softball, dance, bridge, YMCA, etc...); find groups in your community using the internet.

  7- make friends with your co-workers and do things with them.

  8- get in touch with your non-witness relatives

  9- get to know your neighbors

  10- try and meet up with some on this board from your area

  11- get a pet

  12- If you are single, check out the personals and dating services

  13- start a hobby

  Remember, loneliness is a state of mind, not a life sentence. check out this site http://net-burst.net/singles/lonely.htm
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  A Bad experience with JW is a permit for SIN?

  by El Mariachi in

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  i've been reading some sad experinces here... i dont see anyone talking about the bible... only how misserables the organization made their lives... ok ...so because of that...now i have permission to smoke marijuana and commit fornication?

  this sounds pretty much like aa... and everybody having his/her personal "superior power" who is giving them the permit to do whatever they want...

  i've been df for 4 years now and also dont agree with some jw teachings... why instead of blaming the wt for everything dont we look for the real truth in the bible and make things right.

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  ths is too funny, relax
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  Did anyone meet brother Ted Jaracz, what's he like?

  by jason bourne in

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  thecarpenter

  I know a bethel who has dealings with Jaracz and he mentioned that same thing about Jaracz's coldness. He said that there was a complete difference when you walked into dan sydlik's office (when he was alive of course)
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  Depression

  by Honesty in

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  how widespread is it among jehovah's witnesses and how do they cope with it?

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  They stuff themselves with Prozac and food, while blaming worldly people for all of their sorrows.

  I have to disagree Arthur, I blamed it first on myself and then when I realized it wasn't me, I blamed it firmly on the society's shoulders with all it's bullsh*t. This was while I was still a witness and this was major factor in helping me to leave.
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  How to leave Jehovah's Witnesses (fairly) painlessly...

  by DubBeachBabe in

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  posted this as a response on another thread, but i know there are people who want this as a new discussion.

  i'm sure there are many good people watching these discussions who know you want to leave, but also know that this is what may await you - family alienation and pain.

  if you haven't already overtly left, my advice to you is this: don't succumb to the disfellowshipping process.

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  thecarpenter

  hey, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
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  September 2006 Kingdom Ministry! MAJOR issue!

  by under_believer in

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  the september, 2006 km is one of the most special and significant publications the society has released in a long, long time.

  well i'll tell you.. exhibit a: on page 1, the official announcement about the bethel layoffs.

  hint: it's all blamed on "improved technology.".

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  thecarpenter

  Does anyone have a scan of the sept 2006 km?