Hey Axel, I sorry you feel bad, it is part of the exit and rebuilding your life. I second the motion of jstalin, read up on victor frankel. I might also suggest 'seven habits of highly effective people'. This book has been foundational to me in that it made me realize I had to take responsibility for my life, a frightening but liberating experience. It is absolutely wonderful to have your power and motivation come from within and not from people's approval on the outside. I almost feel that most people need this type of instruction (particularly people leaving high control groups). I wrote something about this before and I still strongly believe it and feel the great benefits of living this way in my life. I'm actually back in school now and plan on pursuing a counseling/medical type of profession as a second career for the second part of my life. Anyway, here is the link and I hope you find it helpful.
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just need to vent.
by Axelspeed ini need to vent i guess.
it's been a little while since i've even looked at the board.
i've tried to make a break to somehow get my life moving again, and i never wanted to be one to write a good bye post.
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Who else would never accept to go to a Judicial Committee?
by JH ini was never df'd.
if ever the elders asked me to attend a judicial committee for some reason, i would refuse.
i would never accept to go to their kangaroo court.
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Remember folks, the only power these guys and the watchtower have is the power you give them. When Jesus was confronted by the Pharisees, he didn't give them his power, rather he made fools of them. That's my attitude, they're fools and should be exposed as such.
As a example, if three Mormon elders convinced you to have a sit down with them and then proceeded to make rude accusations against you, how would you handle it? You would think they are out of their minds. Listen, they can't touch you, they can only made ridiculous accusations, have fun with them, I know I would.
The only thing I would caution against is being obnoxious and rude, take the high road and stick to logic. If you are making a recording, you will sound reasonable and sane, they are the ones who will appear foolish and cultish and that's what you want anyway. It will provide years of laughter and conversational currency when you allow others to listen to it. I say have the little chit chat with these morons.
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Who else would never accept to go to a Judicial Committee?
by JH ini was never df'd.
if ever the elders asked me to attend a judicial committee for some reason, i would refuse.
i would never accept to go to their kangaroo court.
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I think I would have a good time going, loaded with two tape recorders and a sharp mind. I would be super reasonable and start sharing one or two doubts that has been bugging me and try having them explain their individual rationalizations to me and listen to the inconsistencies. (did that already with one elder, it was hilarious,unfortunately I forgot to tape it) I think the entertainment value would be well worth it, a pleasant way to spend a evening. Then I would post the conversation on the internet and email to everyone in the congo so others can hear it. In my old congo, I know that they are losing people slowly as more friends avail themselves to the stuff thats on the internet. One sister recently found out about the pedophile scandal and she is trying to come to grips with it but seems to be having a hard time. The organization is reaping it's own fruitage.
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What name would like to see for the "2007 District Convention"?
by new boy inthere many to choose from --------------how about .
" millions now living will soon be dead" (with no hope of a resurrection)--------------that means your unbaptized freinds and family members.
"how we have created god in our image" (jealous, hatedful, petty).
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Or my all time favorite 'DIE, DIE, DIE' District Convention 2007
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What name would like to see for the "2007 District Convention"?
by new boy inthere many to choose from --------------how about .
" millions now living will soon be dead" (with no hope of a resurrection)--------------that means your unbaptized freinds and family members.
"how we have created god in our image" (jealous, hatedful, petty).
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'We hate Apostates' District Conventions 2007 or 'Expunge doubters in our midst' District Convention 2007
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SAW III - A review of the movie
by Elsewhere inunfortunately i can only review the first 5 or 10 minutes of the show as a result of the fact that i got seriously nauseous twice in that time period resulting in my having to walk out.
simply put, that show is seriously f. i've never been a big fan of horror movies because the plot lines and acting have traditionally been of extraordinary poor quality.
the main characters always make some seriously stupid decision and end up being killed by... whatever.
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die die die
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SAW III - A review of the movie
by Elsewhere inunfortunately i can only review the first 5 or 10 minutes of the show as a result of the fact that i got seriously nauseous twice in that time period resulting in my having to walk out.
simply put, that show is seriously f. i've never been a big fan of horror movies because the plot lines and acting have traditionally been of extraordinary poor quality.
the main characters always make some seriously stupid decision and end up being killed by... whatever.
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These types of movies are too sick for my taste... I saw Saw and it was too sadistic for my taste; I had no desire to see saw II. Anyone who likes movies like these will die die die at armageddon... sick bastards!!!
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College Degree = $23K more a year salary
by under_believer incheck out the news on this recent press release from the us census bureau.
here's the google news listing for it (so you can see all the places this story has been covered): click here.. .
lest anybody think the society is taking a softer stance on this issue, well, they're not.
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By the way, earning more with a college degree is one of the benefits. Expanding your mind and options are other great benefits. I really enjoy learning new things and celebral pursuits. This is one of the things that I really resented about the organization. They equated a college education to material pursuits mainly and discounted the educational part of it as a wasted effort. This is like saying that marriage is only for sex (what a ignorant view). Yes, you can increase your earning potential with a college degree but it also opens a whole new world that most didn't know existed. This is one of the most wonderful things you can do for yourself. It is sad when one misses out on this...
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College Degree = $23K more a year salary
by under_believer incheck out the news on this recent press release from the us census bureau.
here's the google news listing for it (so you can see all the places this story has been covered): click here.. .
lest anybody think the society is taking a softer stance on this issue, well, they're not.
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Well, it depends on your view of money. The scriptures actually say that the love of money is the root to all sorts of injurious things. On the other hand, when one doesn't have enough, that also leads to alot of anxiety. It is not fun to be behind in your rent or not being able to repair your car. The key is balance and living beneath your means. I personally am quite impressed with some rich people like Mayor Mike Bloomberg who is a billionaire (5 billion range) and yet he is well grounded. He even takes the subway to work in the morning. Yes he has cars and planes but it doesn't define him just as lack of money shouldn't define us.
Personally, I view money as a tool to do things. The amount isn't important as long I have enough to do what I want to do. That makes me happy (haven't went on vacation in 5 years but didn't really want to go any where anyway). On the other hand, brought plenty of gadgets which I do enjoy. Everyones level of comfort is different. I think I will start going away on vacation though, starting to get that urge to travel again....
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College Degree = $23K more a year salary
by under_believer incheck out the news on this recent press release from the us census bureau.
here's the google news listing for it (so you can see all the places this story has been covered): click here.. .
lest anybody think the society is taking a softer stance on this issue, well, they're not.
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A liberal arts degrees can help somewhat but you still have to be proactive in securing work (even if it means moving to another area or going back to get marketable skills) . I never finished college but still managed to secure a terrific job with a great salary and benefits but I had to really work hard to get this job. I'm back in college now finishing my degree and plan to get my masters or other type of professional degree (MD, PC,...).
A college degree doesn't guarantee success nor being a dropout guarantee failure but generally a college degree will make it easier to secure better employment as the statistical sampling from the US Census Bureau under_believer posted shows. Likewise, high school dropouts and high school graduates statistically will find it harder to increase their income. Society can dispute this with all sorts of anecdotal evidence they want but really it just makes them appear that much more foolish.