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  Favorite Quotations

  by Lady Lee in

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  i'm going to offer some of my favorite quotations.

  - non wt related - what are yours?

  "i learned that it is the weak who are cruel, and that gentleness is to be expected only from the strong.

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  dawn27

  My favorite sayings to live by are: "No guts, no glory." Also " Love deeply, laugh often and live each day to the fullest."
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  Well, it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks

  by logansrun in

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  so, my cousin is getting married next weekend and i'm invited.

  relatives flying into town on monday, family dinners before the wedding, all that good stuff.

  of course, they are all jws.

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  dawn27

  I faced a similar situation when my mom got married. I had been innactive and was engaged to an unbeliever. Also, I had been living out of the area and nobody in my home congregation had met my fiance yet. So, talk about uncomfortable, I had to walk into the hall with my wordly fiance after I had gone innactive and avoided the elders. I think that the best thing I did was to tell people how happy I was and not act intimidated. I know that some expect you to come back hanging your head and they play on that to act "superior" or "better than", but I went to the wedding with a smile and a handsome fiance who was dotting on me all day. I think that some of the sisters were jealous to be honest, cuz he was getting me drinks and opening doors for me, ect. I was never cornered by the elders that day, but they did talk to my fiance and asked him when the wedding was, where we were getting married, ect. They may have been fishing for a little info I guess. He was completely straight-forward and told them how happy he was with me. I think that they were a little suprized when he told them that we had been engaged for a year and a half already. So, I guess they probably figured out why I wasn't running to the hall to meet with them the year before, ha,ha. Good luck! Have fun and hold your head high!
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  It has begun

  by Elsewhere in

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  first saudi arabia got a taste of terrorism the other day, and started to shut down the terrorist groups.

  recently pakistan has started shutting down the offices of many terrorist organizations.

  http://www.cnn.com/2003/world/asiapcf/south/11/15/pakistan.crackdown/index.html.

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  dawn27

  If the goal was really to "free" the people, all they need to do is hold national elections and get the troups out of there. Sadam is not in power. Bush and Cheyney want to get their hands on some of that oil money under the assumption of "rebuilding" the country, when they're the ones that bombed it in the first place. We don't even know if schools or social security will be funded ten years from now and their priority is spending billions to change the form of government of a country in the middle east? By all means, lets free them to pay taxes and slave away every day for a corporation. Maybe they will even set up some of those cameras to catch them speeding through intersections so they can pay a "driving tax" on their way to work. Real freedom would be living off the land on an island with no governments or corporations to nickel and dime you to death. What happened to the days when you could make a living farming your own land and have dinner with your family every night?
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  Autism//Aspergers/ADHD - For those that Inquired

  by pettygrudger in

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  sorry - i forgot all those that wished this information in chat this a.m. - so this is general information to those that wish to understand biological interventions for those w/children suffering these neurological conditions:.

  http://www.whale.to/vaccines/wakefield.html.

  the above is some information and links regarding dr. anthony wakefield.

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  dawn27

  I work in a hospital and many seizure conditions have also been traced back to vaccines, particularly the DPT (Pertussis) vaccine that the babies are usually given before leaving the hospital. You get home, the baby will have a seizure condition due to the vaccine being in their system, and you can go to doctor after doctor and there will be no physical causes for the seizures. The sad part is that this vaccine is required by law. The parent can sign a waver, but if your child dies from Diptheria, Tetanus or Pertussis you can be charged with the death. So, basically, the government requires that you inject your child with live bacteria and then when they have seizures their whole life and eventually need 24/7 care they say that it was a seizure disorder from birth and it is very hard to get compensated for medical bills and the cost of care. The seizure disorder occurs in about 1 in 30,000 babies, but many more get autism or other conditions from the vaccine.
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  Underhanded Means and Trickery

  by dawn27 in

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  did the elders ever try to trick you into saying too much or even trick you into having to meet with them after you said that you wouldn't?

  here is my dilema: i have been inactive for about 18 mnths and moved out of the area, got a new phone number, ect.

  i have had the best of both worlds, a good relationship with my family (because i'm not df'd or da'd) and freedom from the borg.

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  dawn27

  Thank you all for the good suggestions and experiences. I think that hearing of what you all went through reinforces my gut feeling that there is alot more behind the recent interest in my situation than meets the eye. I don't plan on returning any future phone calls about "lunch meetings". I'd love to change my cell phone number, but that wouldn't do any good cuz they would get the new number from witness family members. Any certified letter will be marked "return to sender". That probably wouldn't help either, though, because they would still announce me as "da'd" for refusing to meet with them or open my letter right? Has that happened to any of you? My word, I feel like I was in the gestapo or just left the mob and they are out to get me. Oh, just to give a little more background, no the meeting with them was not judicial and there were only two brothers. They just wanted to know why my service hours had been slipping and why I had befriended a "worldly" man (now my husband). They reemed me out and I hadn't even done anything. They said that they wanted me to change my course before there was a need for judicial action. Well, no more judicial action for me (hopefully!). I realized that they were judging someone that they didn't even know as unworthy of friendship and I would not meet with them again. Moved and left no forwarding address. Thank you all for your input. Dawn
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  Underhanded Means and Trickery

  by dawn27 in

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  did the elders ever try to trick you into saying too much or even trick you into having to meet with them after you said that you wouldn't?

  here is my dilema: i have been inactive for about 18 mnths and moved out of the area, got a new phone number, ect.

  i have had the best of both worlds, a good relationship with my family (because i'm not df'd or da'd) and freedom from the borg.

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  dawn27

  Did the elders ever try to trick you into saying too much or even trick you into having to meet with them after you said that you wouldn't? Here is my dilema: I have been inactive for about 18 mnths and moved out of the area, got a new phone number, ect. I have had the best of both worlds, a good relationship with my family (because I'm not Df'd or Da'd) and freedom from the borg. I received several calls and notes on my door before I left but would not answer them because I had already had an aweful meeting with the elders and did not want to meet again and loose contact with my family before I moved. Anyway, a sister who is married to an elder and who was a good friend to me in alot of ways got my phone number and has looked me up after a year and a half and would like to "go to lunch". I was thinking the best, perhaps she wanted to find out the real reasons behind my sudden move, maybe she had a few doubts of her own and wanted to talk or maybe wanted to stay friends despite everything (yah right). So, I gave her the benefit of the doubt as to her intentions and gave her a call. Now, she says that she and her husband (an elder) would like to meet me for lunch. So, it went from girls day out to meeting with an elder for lunch. He was a good friend to me as well but I know that they did not like the fact that I left so suddenly and would not meet again with the elders before my move so I have serious doubts about what the motivations are behind the "lunch meeting". Am I being really paranoid? I think that they will probably be wired with microphones and anything that I say will be used as "confessions" in a secret elders meeting. Or, with both of them there, it could be considered "two witnesses". I would just appreciate hearing any similar experiences and what resulted.. Did you help to get your friends out of the borg, or did they help to cement your df'ing or da'ing by repeating what you said to the elders? Also, how did you explain your inactivity and refusal to meet with the elders without putting your friends on the defensive? What should I do to protect my freedom but yet not shun ones who have been there for me in the past and who possibly still have good intentions? Help! Thanks in advance for your comments,, Dawn
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  Celebs you look like

  by berylblue in

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  okay, so i got annoyed yesterday when someone told me i looked like debra winger.

  i find her most unfeminine and unattractive.

  but it doesn't piss me off half as much as when i'm told i look like liza minelli.

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  dawn27

  When I am not tanning and have my hair up, I have been told that I look like Audrey Hepburn. At the end of the summer, when I'm tan and have my hair down and curly, people say a shorter J.Lo. The second is mostly family, though, so I'm sure they're just being sweet,,
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  WHAT WOULD U DO IF YOU WON THE LOTTERY?

  by Mary in

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  if you won the lottery, what would you do?

  would you continue to work?

  how much would you give your family and friends?

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  dawn27

  I would buy my husband the ' 67 Camaro that he has been dreaming of since he was a little boy and then we would fly first class to Hawaii and pick out our dream house with our own beach and boat-dock (so that we could sail around the islands). I would set up both of our families with a generous income. Then, I would travel until I got tired of traveling and go back to school for my PhD. I would open up my own pediatric wing (in my late nephews name) and employ all of the best staff that I could find. Of course, I would work there part time myself to stay grounded. That would be the life,,
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  Do you remember your last meeting?

  by freedom96 in

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  last meeting i ever went to was a memorial, 6 years ago.

  i remember it well, and it wasn't even my own hall.

  it was so boring.

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  dawn27

  My last meeting was a Sunday and the elders had called on Saturday evening and asked to "talk" to me after the meeting. The whole meeting I was on pins and needles wondering what was up and it turned out that someone had told them about a friendship that I had developed with a guy that lived next door to me. It was not a judicial meeting because nothing had gone on but I had to listen about how I shouldn't have a friendship with an unbeliever and if I were to marry him my kids would be doomed as well. They wanted me to promise before I left that I would break off the friendship and I refused. They called a few times after that but I didn't call back and never set foot in the hall again. I wasn't going to let them sit there in judgement of me and someone that they didn't even know. I went to an assembly after that with my family and there was a talk about people who left the truth to marry unbelievers and they said, "but we don't care about them". I left at the lunch break never to go back. Shortly thereafter I moved and married my handsome "unbeliever" who is a terrific husband. I discovered this web site and many of the stories told here of how people have been treated convice me that I made the right descision. I faded away and didn't play their game by writing a DA letter. I still want to from time to time, but I kind of like talking to my family..
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  My DF'd Niece Wasn't Reinstated Because She Talked To Me, My Daughter& Mom

  by minimus in

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  she met last night with her elders.

  she wasn't reinstated again.

  (it's been a few yrs).

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  I really feel for her. I was never Df'd or Da'd but the lack of humility and judgmentalness was very apparent when I met with the elders about my boyfriend. You could tell that they considered it a direct "challenge" of their authority and they spoke very condescendingly. They went so far as to say that my children would be pagans and disapproved by Jehovah if I was to marry him. I told them that my children would be gifts from Jehovah and asked how they could judge a man whom they had never met (and his future children) as being pagan and not worthy of life. To make a long story short, I am now happily married to the "pagan" and refused to have any more "meetings" with the elders. He is the kindest, humblest man that I have ever known. This is in stark contrast to the prideful, judgemental type of man who "enjoy" shunning, judging others and calling judicial meetings. What right do they have to tell her who to love or to keep her in a shunned state out of spite?