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  Who have you lost?

  by alamb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wonder if we each put up who we lost from our lives and how long ago if it would be a testament to those who might find this thread and think.

  the absurdity.. my parents: 12 years.

  my brother: 12 years (he is now married).

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  Johnny

  Two nieces

  Two nephews

  An aunt and uncle

  And a lot of "Friends"

  And Jesus replied, "I assure you that everyone who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or property, for my sake and for the Good News, will receive now in return, a hundred times over, houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and property--with persecutions. And in the world to come they will have eternal life. But many who seem to be important now will be the least important then, and those who are considered least here will be the greatest then." - Mar 10:29-31 NLT
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  Elder says that there're apostates who are organized in Spain

  by cattails in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder said that there are apostates organized in spain to make the sale of the spanish branch money go to the congregations that provided the funds.

  he has photos of the place from an email and had heard this from a circuit overseer who just visited there.

  has anyone heard confirmation of this?.

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  Johnny

  The apostates ARE organized in Spain.

  They are called the "Jehovah's Witnesses"!!
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  Has Your Personality Changed Since Leaving The Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have an aquaintance that likes to say, "once an a hole always an a hole".

  i guess you could reason that whatever your religious views were, your core is you are who you are.. did your personality change for better or worse when you left the organization?.

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  My stress level has gone down noticably.
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  Do Jehovahs Witnesses hold record for Religion with the most False Prophecies?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  offically what is the record?.....how many false prophecies have come from the watchtower?

  is there another group with more false prophecies?.

  russell armagedon 1874 - 1914 - 1918 rutherford 1925 - 1940's {ww 2} franz 1975 - this generation {1999-2005}.

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  "Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the [Organization] could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary."

  - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 3
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  The Finished Mystery Book---Was The Gov't Really That Upset With JWs?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....or is this mostly an exaggeration from the witnesses?.

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  Call it my own suspicians, but I don't think it was "stupid" or even accidental the fact the Rutherford was thrown in prison. Remember, "the end justifies the means". This created a martyr's aura surrounding Rutherford and his cronies, actually making the man MORE powerful and influential.

  I don't think it was ever the intention for him to remain in there. And more so, I think there were some powerful people (maybe on Wallstreet) that had him and his buddies exonerated. If you read his quotes carefully in the "Proclaimer's" book during the time he was in jail, and it is obvious that he had no intention of remaining in there. I believe he KNEW something! And it was not that "Jehovah" was going to save him.

  That man practically invented "Dirty Politics".
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  Ray Franz on Fear Among JWs

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. humour

  to this day, in all countries, any persons among jehovah's witnesses who find they cannot conscientiously support fully the organization's teachings or practices live in a climate of fear, feeling they must constantly be on guard as to what they say, what they do, what they read, with whom they associate, from whom they receive letters, not feeling any sense of freedom even when among personal friends or close relatives if these are also witnesses.

  as stated, in my personal experience i have had people phone who were afraid to give their name or who felt it necessary to use a fictitious name, some who even felt it necessary to take out a special post office box to be able to correspond without danger of their correspondence with me or other former witnesses being discovered.

  they face a form of "hostage" situation, produced by the organization's authority.

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  "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1John 4:18 NIV

  Many people enter the "Organization" because they are attracted by so-called love. Then , when they realize that it really is NOT love, they are restrained by FEAR.
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  Difference between Spirit Inspired and Spirit Directed?

  by onefootout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the title says it all.. what arguments have you heard in people trying to defend the org in saying they are 'spirit directed but the writers and gb are not spirit inspired'?.

  i have never seen much of a difference.

  this seems to be the crux of the matter.

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  I don't doubt that the "Organization" is spirit-directed.

  The question is though, WHAT spirit?? NOT the Holy Spirit!

  "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light ." - 2Cor 11:14
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  UN to destroy Religion like JW predict???

  by asilentone in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aruoyudd74.

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  Maybe. If the same people who control the JW's are the ones who control the UN.
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  The end the system of things

  by purplesofa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when exactly is the end?.

  i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

  " matt 28:20. .

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  purplesofa ,

  The destruction of the temple at Jerusalem signaled the end of the Jewish age. The collection of the church and the establishment of Christ's Kingdom will signal the end of the Gospel age. Jesus statment to his apostles more probably referred to the end of the Gospel age and not the Jewish age, because they were to Kings in his Kingdom along with all the Saints throughout he Gospel age.

  Remember the Apostle John's concluding statement long after Jersaelem's devastation:

  "Even so, come, Lord Jesus." - Rev 22:20
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  What I do know is that there is peace to be found and there love to be had, after the organisation

  by LIftsong in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mother became a jw when i was six months old so i was brought up within the confines of the organisation.

  i left properly in my early twenties and i am now 43 so a good 22 years of life, post being a witness have i travelled and documented thus far.

  mine was a typical experience of a child in the congregation and i was busy doing my best to be a little adult as the child within slowly fell asleep.

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  Johnny

  Time flies when you are a "Witness". And before you know it, your whole life is behind you. How sad.

  And then they wonder why some are "bitter".