we all know, and anticipating, the dateline show.
i propose that we get together as a group and create flyers that we can download and print to distribute to people in our communities.
striking while the iron is hot is very important.
ozzie, sure you can call me daisy. Kind of cute. LOL. Anyway, I went to Randy's site and it is not immediately apparent where these tracts are. Let me know how to access them ok?
libra, I'm not totally sure how to go about this........but all suggestions are good and anyone willing to submit is greatly appreciated.
we all know, and anticipating, the dateline show.
i propose that we get together as a group and create flyers that we can download and print to distribute to people in our communities.
striking while the iron is hot is very important.
We all know, and anticipating, the Dateline show. I propose that we get together as a group and create flyers that we can download and print to distribute to people in our communities. Striking while the iron is hot is very important. Look at what the WBTS does......they print articles regarding recent events. To catch people while it is still on their minds is very important, otherwise it gets shoved aside. Especially those that only find JW's annoying but don't know a lot about what they truly believe.
I propose that all get together and provide info/proof of certain subjects. For example:
Origins (Pleiades)
All the years that were SUPPOSED to be Armageddon
Blood
UN
Not to mention whatever you as posters think would be good to get out to the public.
I think that most of us agree that trying to change the views of an indoctrinated person is difficult at best. I think our best bet is to curb any increase by exposing who and what this Org is about.
Can we get together rather quickly, because of our own leanings, info for small 2 page flyers that we could all print out and distribute to people? I know this would be a daunting task, but I think it is important to do while people already have a bad view of JW's (after the Dateline show)
Who is with me?
my son (who's 15) came home from the meeting last night (he thinks he wants to be a witness, but that's in another thread) and said that his grandmother (my mother-in-law) told him my reason for not going to meetings (the un thing, also discussed in another thread).
he told me that i need to talk to the po about it as he had heard about it a while back and has some information.. hmmmm, me thinks the mom-in-law has been talking to the po about what i told her last week.
i'm sure that i will be getting a shepherding call (a drop-by, unscheduled visit) by him this weekend.
They may want to use the idea that a couple of Br's took it upon themselves to join, but the fact still remains that they had to report yearly and put out information promoting the UN ideals....EVERY YEAR!!! OK, at that they could say that it still was handled by those errant Br's. But remember during their tenure with the UN one of the Br's who signed the paperwork died.
if we tolerate this then our children will be next.. we have got to put a stop to this mad organisation.. giving people false hopes taking away thier lives , their free will.. i lost 27 years of my life to jehovahs witness from a newborn baby my mind was filled with their teachings , i was going to live forever never going to die .. all life was to be centered around the truth.. i trusted these people and all i got was a kick in the teeth when i questioned it.. there has got to be something we can do , lets not let our hands be tied .. i dont k now what can be done but if we don't do something soon the org is just going to change people will start flocking in again and more lives will be ruined.
I totally agree with you baby....but on the other hand I think it should be handled from logical thinking rather than "off the cuff" from anger. Things will be more organized and logical from that standpoint. We need to keep in focus what we want to accomplish, rather than feeding off of our fear/anger at the moment. Another thing we need to do is to try and avoid looking/searching for things to attack rather than looking at the whole picture and focusing on that. It seems to be a case of not seeing the forest for the trees in here.
i wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
I am showing my real face. :-} I think that too many here (and on other sites) assume that what is written in chat, clubs, groups, message boards are the gospel. I think for anyone who asks for proof before believing is a smart person.
ive been reading many of the un threads with interest but i am already finding it difficult to locate little tidbits of information spread across the numerous threads on this issue that i didnt bother to bookmark.
i think its already well established that the wt societys associative status with the uns dpi was not required to gain access to its library (as my understand is that any person can request permission and may thereafter be granted access on a temporary basis) but i also seem to recall reading that somebody actually contacted the uns main library and that person was informed that ngos with dpi-associative status do not have automatic access to the librarys materials but must still request a pass or card which also requires some type of formal application.
could somebody please confirm this and/or direct me to the relevant thread?.
five, everything that you have stated is what I perceive also. One other thing to consider is that the WBTS is also using the idea that they needed to have the UN affiliation to do relief work in other countries. They are saying that in order to be in some countries to provide it they need to register this with the UN. This is total bunk. First off....do you remember ever seeing where they have done relief work for the general public anywhere? Sure, they say they do..........such as with the 9/11 incident but from eyewitness accounts what they published did not happen.......at least for "worldly" people. I seem to remember a Questions from Readers once where a reader asked why it was not stressed to recycle or systems were not set up for relief work for people experiencing tragedy and the WBTS's response was that whatever they could provide was of no consequence since Jehovah in His own time would take care of all of that. They also sated that their only obligation at this time was to spread the word.
i wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
First off I want to say that I have no problems with any posters in here personally. I agree, or don't, with many in here........but this continual bashing of others is starting to get under my skin. The one and only statement in the initial post that stands out to me is:
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One poster on the other hand made no such move he called her a liar repeatedly and demanded actual police reports before he would ever believe otherwise.
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I did not see the posts that were referred to...........but I will have to say that to ask for (demand) proof is not out of line. Think about it. How many posts have we seen in here that seem to be just purely out of the attitude of bashing, for no other reason than to look for the minutest thing that the Borg has done? Don't get me wrong.......I think for the most part what is written in here is good. But I will have to say that petty arguements, specifically focusing on one person in a negative post, or even those posts that are seeking "boogey men" where boogey men do not exist gets very, very tiresome. Why not take these issues to a personal level? Why not face each other and try to settle differences without a public forum? From what I have seen quite a number of times the misunderstandings are due entirely to the fact that seeing words written rather than spoken causes a lot of hard feelings and flame wars that are totally unnecessary if 2 (or more) so called adults would agree to talk to each other civilly.
Like I said, I don't know what transpired here but can't it be taken care of in another, more civil way?
just a reminder to all those partisan politics folks that both republicans and democrats are dirty, lying thieves through and through.
conservatives enjoyed piling on clinton and getting all frothy about how he dishonered the dignity of the white house.
then george w. promised to 'restore dignity to the white house' and instead of viewing this as a typical political lie to get elected, conservatives bought it hook, line, and sinker.
IMO, it doesn't matter who is put in the Whitehouse........we as imperfect people will always find fault. With the amount of responsibilities a person has in running a country you can't expect that someone will do the perfect thing all the time. I also believe that BEFORE a person goes into the Whitehouse they have no experience with the pressures they will face there, in effect going in with high hopes or wearing rose colored glasses. A person can only do the best they can. If you remember......the Son of God himself was rejected and killed because people didn't agree with him.
this is rather embarrassing to say, but i have a problem.
the three times i have had sex i have noticed that i can't get aroused by normal penetration.
only oral sex will do it.
gil, this is a very normal thing a man goes through sometimes. Nothing to be embarrassed about. A few things that came to my mind as to possible causes are:
Too much coffee
Alcohol
Like someone else mentioned, medication
Stress
I'm sure there are more but they are aluding me right now. If I were you I would see if any of the things I mentioned may be the cause, if not go to your Dr and see what s/he says. Viagra is a wonderful drug. Personally I think they (the pharmaceutical companies) got 2 names mixed up with their drugs. I think it should be called Celebrex instead of the other one!!!! LOL
what precisely are the instructions that are given to assembly or convention speakers about the manner in which they are to deliver their talks, especially the manuscript ones?.
the reason i ask is that i was always irked by the strident, hectoring tone of the speakers at these events.. you'd have brother mild-mannered from your home congregation on the platform, someone you knew gave talks at the kingdom hall in a (relatively) low-key "i'm a normal person" voice, but get him up there at the doers of god's divine godly fear kingdom district convention and he'd be snapping out those long boring rhetorical questions and thrashing his hands around like some dictator wannabe.. it made me think that if you wanted to turn people on to the organization, the district convention sure wasn't the place to start.. comment
I don't know how they do it now but years ago when I was in a part at an Assembly we had practice sessions with the CO there watching and listening. He would stop you during the session and tell you to be more......whatever you were lacking in. Most of the cases it was that the Br's weren't forceful enough or animated enough. I felt bad for the Br's where it wasn't natural for them to do so because the CO would stop him every few minutes to make him do it over again until he got it right.
