Posts by DazedAndConfused

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Legal Insurance

by DazedAndConfused in

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i think that at this point it may imperitive that many on this message board thinks about having legal insurance.

we all have so many things to make us angry, and possibly things that are things that could be taken up in court.

whether it be a suit due to our own situation or even to think about a class action suit..........it is something that each and everyone of us might consider.

DazedAndConfused

Oh yes nelly, by saying that only Jw's and their family can go through them..............they are definitely discrimminating!!!!!

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My life: may be long

by DazedAndConfused in

i remember being 4 years old.

my mom was catholic, but not a practicing catholic.

as far as i knew at that time my dad had no affiliation.

My life: may be long

by DazedAndConfused in

i remember being 4 years old.

my mom was catholic, but not a practicing catholic.

as far as i knew at that time my dad had no affiliation.

DazedAndConfused

Thankfully at this point my "children" are adults. 2 out of 3 reject the teachings of the Borg. Thank the God in Heaven for that!

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Legal Insurance

by DazedAndConfused in

jw
friends

i think that at this point it may imperitive that many on this message board thinks about having legal insurance.

we all have so many things to make us angry, and possibly things that are things that could be taken up in court.

whether it be a suit due to our own situation or even to think about a class action suit..........it is something that each and everyone of us might consider.

I think that at this point it may imperitive that many on this message board thinks about having Legal Insurance. We all have so many things to make us angry, and possibly things that are things that could be taken up in court. Whether it be a suit due to our own situation or even to think about a class action suit..........it is something that each and everyone of us might consider. We all pay for health insurance but we are 3 times more likely (per year) to need a legal action than being put in the hospital.

There are at least a couple of situations I am thinking about within the confines of this board that may cause individual or civil suits:

1) Blood issue
2) http://www.bethelcoachtours.com/

This outfit is in NM, USA. It is illegal for any company to exclude anyone for reasons such as.....age, race, or religion . This company, Bethel Coach Tours states within it website:

http://www.bethelcoachtours.com/about_bct.htm

In this area of their website they say "Our tours are limited to Jehovah's Witnesses only. Immediate relatives who are not Jehovah's Witnesses may join the tours."

Totally illegal according to US laws.

Anyone who wants to receive information that could make it easier to sue these "b******s" email me at [email protected]

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My life: may be long

by DazedAndConfused in

i remember being 4 years old.

my mom was catholic, but not a practicing catholic.

as far as i knew at that time my dad had no affiliation.

DazedAndConfused

I remember being 4 years old. My mom was Catholic, but not a practicing Catholic. As far as I knew at that time my dad had no affiliation. I vividly remember begging my mom to take me to church. (Who at 4 begs to go to church?) (Clue #1 to my psyche) Anyway, mom finally took me to the Catholic Church after she had promised she would take me, and it was Sunday and she was still asleep so I jumped up and down on her to wake her up. Needless to say she was not a happy camper. Regardless...I was determined enough that she got up and took me.

Once I got to the Church I was thrilled beyond belief. Once you go in the door you come across this “fountain”. It is the Holy Water you need to touch (I guess). Anyway, my mom touched the Holy Water, did some funky stuff against her chest while mumbling something that I had no idea what she was saying. I did not understand what she was doing but it was cool with me. I was finally in a church!

I remember feeling so bad for my mom. She is/was a big woman. During the church services you go down on your knees/get up, (repeat) (repeatedly). This was cool to me. There was singing going on too. But when it came to the “lecture” it was in Latin. Only years later did I find out that the Catholic Church did this intentionally to keep the r&f from knowing what the Bible actually taught. But I distinctly remember thinking (at 4 years old) that I did not want anything to do with a Church that hid what they believed behind a language you could not understand. Needless to say, I never asked to go back.

At 8 years old we moved to a new town. It was not until I was an adult that I was told it was because my parents were going to split up if nothing was done to change the situation. My parents felt like a lack of God in their lives was the major problem in their lives. At this point they made a “pact”. My dad saying “Try the Baptists” and my mom saying “Try the JW’s”. My mom came out of the Baptist Church laughing and then a study with JW’s was started. That Bible spent more time in the garbage than it was out, but eventually we were entrenched in the JW’s.

OK, that was the beginning.

This was 1966……Babylon Book for anyone who remembers it. Ugh! My parents got baptized in 1969. I was 11 at the time. This was still cool to me. I was even dubbed the “Bible Lady” in 10th grade because I carried the Bible with me always. No matter what was said, I could bring it back to the Bible. Needless to say………..I didn’t have a lot of friends.

1974

With the fervor for 1975 I remember meeting an Elder at the Hall to discuss my eligibility for Baptism. I told him I was afraid because 1975 (fall) was very soon. He agreed I needed to do something NOW. So I got baptized. 1976, April, I married a young Witness Brother.

This young man tried to kill me on many occasions, he accused me of killing our firstborn for 10 solid years, he would not have anything to do with Bible Study or the upbringing of our 3 children. Because of the repeated attempts at killing me I went to Brothers in 2 congregations to talk about it. No one helped me. Finally, I saw the pain in my second daughters face while hearing the screaming going on in our household. I determined that I would make life better for all of us if I could get a divorce. In the WBTS you can only get a divorce by adultery so I went just far enough with a young man to say I did adultery. Lo and behold, that didn’t matter since “he” was willing to forgive. Life at home did not improve so I decided I needed to go farther in what I did so I could get a divorce and raise my kids without the problems. Well, I accomplished a divorce but what faced me I had no idea could happen. I lost my children to this psychopath due to a pure lack of money. I had to sit back and watch him do basically the same thing to them that he did to me. Deep and utter control

I have been diagnosed as having PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) due to my ex and also because of the WBTS.

I want to end this on a positive note. 2 out of my 3 children do not want ANYTHING to do with the JW’s. At times I feel anger and fear and a lack of self-esteem because of this ordeal called my life. But the fact that 2 of my children are out makes all the pain worthwhile.

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Question for ex elders

by Marilyn in

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i'm wondering if any of you ex elders ever felt embarrassed or awkward about having to stick your noses into other peoples business did it ever seem like that to you, or were you of the mind that you were a necessary part of the lives of the flock?

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marilyn

DazedAndConfused

refiners, Iremember talking to my brother and his wife about when they were younger. The Elders seem to have anagenda against ALL young people at the time. They (the elders) pulled the young ones (teenagers) to their (the elders) meetings. They asked many questions.........but when they talked to my brothers girlfriend (now my sister in law) they needed to have details.

Elders: what did you do?

Jen: We held hands.

Elders: Did he get a woody? (American slang for a hard on)

Jen: I have no idea...........I was holding his HAND.

ugh!!!!!!!!!!!

Makes you wonder what the true agenda is. Is it to find out the truth or is it to get a hard on vicariously?

Marilyn, life is better but you or no one on this board knows the scope of what I have dealt with. "Worldly people" don;t understand how I could have possibly endured this without going totally insane.

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Who was a squeaky clean dub?

by Marilyn in

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i'm wondering if the majority here were seriously conservative squeaky clean dubs?

i took the whole thing very seriously.

there seems to be such a fun element here - i can't imagine everyone being those dull folk all decked out in their wt uniform with accompanying plastic expressions.. marilyn

DazedAndConfused

Marylin, sorry to say I am not Australian. Shit encompasses all continents huh? No, I live in the good ole US of A.

I try so hard to get rid of the anger. When does it end?

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Question for ex elders

by Marilyn in

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friends

i'm wondering if any of you ex elders ever felt embarrassed or awkward about having to stick your noses into other peoples business did it ever seem like that to you, or were you of the mind that you were a necessary part of the lives of the flock?

.

marilyn

DazedAndConfused

I was never an elder but sure as s*** I was the scope of their interviews.

I felt at the time that I committed adultery that I had no other choice. I had gone through 3 congregations trying to get help from an individual that is considered a "psychopath" (by worldly authorities) with no help. I felt that adultery would only help me get out of the situation I was in (physical/mental abuse, attempted murder on many occasions,.....etc.) I felt I had no other recourse.

Yeah right!!!!!

When I did what I felt was "just enough" to be able to get a divorce.......I found out I still couldn't if HE still forgave me. In that "interview" they had to ask details. I mean down to demonstrating what was done (the act itself).

What really sucked about the whole thing is that one of the Elders that was on my Committee turned right around and reported to dickhead what I had done to the minutest detail. That's love for you huh?

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Who was a squeaky clean dub?

by Marilyn in

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friends

i'm wondering if the majority here were seriously conservative squeaky clean dubs?

i took the whole thing very seriously.

there seems to be such a fun element here - i can't imagine everyone being those dull folk all decked out in their wt uniform with accompanying plastic expressions.. marilyn

DazedAndConfused

I would have considered myself "squeaky clean" except for two things:

1) I had to take care of 3 very young girls (with illnesses....etc) yet was told my dub hubby was called before the Elders to question why I did not put in the 10 hours a month which was the national average at the time. (NEVER DID THEY ONCE ASK WHY I WASN'T AT THE HALL WHILE DICKHEAD WAS AT EVERY ONE WHILE MY (our) 3 GIRLS HAD CHICKEN POX, AT INTERVALS)Why didn't they ever approach him and ask why he wasn't taking part of the burdon then, and letting me go to some meetings (thus splitting up the parenting and also allowing me to "enjoy" the spiritual information and association?

2) I have to admit I did say shit once in a while. But only when I really, really hurt myself. (sound of hammer hitting thumb)

It wasn't until dickhead discovered that alcohol would limber me up did I discover that alcohol can cover a multitude of sins. This is what I needed to live with dickhead. I never drank until this, at this time he would yank my hair and hold my head back and pour alcohol down my throat, until I thought I would drown.

Left to my own devices.....I would have been better off than living with a man (dickhead) that had favor in the comgregation. Nuff said.

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bethel coach tours package deals

by nelly136 in

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prices and run down of organised activities for any one who fancies a trip to see buck house.

http://www.bethelcoachtours.com/scot_ire_lon_wls.htm.

nelly

DazedAndConfused

I don't know what their current policy is but it seems to me when I was there in the early '80's everyone was allowed but since the Br's & Sr's were asked to dress appropriately they pretty much knew right off who was worldly. When I was there they spotted a man that was not dressed according to the rules so changed the guide from a woman to a man. I think they may have added an extra guide but I can't remember.