Yeah, your kid can't join the school team, etc, or at least it's strongly discouraged and you and your child are looked down on if you allow your kid to join such teams....but it's okay for the Williams sisters, Jerry Hairston of the Balt. Orioles, and Prince to flourish in their high-profile careers.
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8Using the Watchtower to Ruin Your Children
by metatron inthe circuit overseer spoke from the platform sternly,.
"we seem to have a problem in this circuit with young brothers.
not having any ambition, either in the truth or even in the world".
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Sports Illustrated 6/25/01
by DB insports illustrated, in its june 25, 2001 issue on page 76, reports that jerry hairston of the baltimore orioles had been "baptized as a jehovah's witness" last july.. at times, according to the artcile, hairston's passionate play on the field, charactarized by end-over-flips of his bat after strikeouts and exasperated shrugs during arguments with umpires, gives other players the impression of cockiness on his part.
i'm a passionate person.".
the article mentions that after hairston slammed his bat to the ground after popping out on a roger clemens fastball, he got a long staredown from clemens.
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Hey Tina and Orb, thanks for the comments! One reason I posted this is to show that, like Orbison said, the average JW is looked down upon if he/she partcipates in organized sports, and is strongly discouraged from doing so. And yet, we see the Williams girls playing pro tennis, and now Mr. Hairston playing pro ball and none of them are showing any inclination to give these things up. And we can now add The Artist to the list of JW celebs.
I noted the SI comments on Hairston's playing demeanor merely to show that, since being a JW is supposed to make us 'better fathers, mothers, and children' maybe it ought to make Hairston a more respectful ball player, LOL.
I think that this whole sports/celeb thing may be headed in the same direction as the education situation. I think the Society will one day write an article about organized sports partcipation and change their tune just a bit, in order to appear more mainstream. Then again, maybe not.
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Sports Illustrated 6/25/01
by DB insports illustrated, in its june 25, 2001 issue on page 76, reports that jerry hairston of the baltimore orioles had been "baptized as a jehovah's witness" last july.. at times, according to the artcile, hairston's passionate play on the field, charactarized by end-over-flips of his bat after strikeouts and exasperated shrugs during arguments with umpires, gives other players the impression of cockiness on his part.
i'm a passionate person.".
the article mentions that after hairston slammed his bat to the ground after popping out on a roger clemens fastball, he got a long staredown from clemens.
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Sports Illustrated, in its June 25, 2001 issue on page 76, reports that Jerry Hairston of the Baltimore Orioles had been "baptized as a Jehovah's Witness" last July.
At times, according to the artcile, Hairston's passionate play on the field, charactarized by end-over-flips of his bat after strikeouts and exasperated shrugs during arguments with umpires, gives other players the impression of cockiness on his part. "Sometimes it might come off as something else. What can I say? I'm a passionate person."
The article mentions that after Hairston slammed his bat to the ground after popping out on a Roger Clemens fastball, he got a long staredown from Clemens. Later, Hairston had to get out of the way of a Clemens fastball that buzzed by his head.
"I meant no disrespect to Roger; he was one of my favorite players growing up" said Hairston. "Besides, how many times do other major league players [slam their bats]? Tino Martinez, Paul O'Neil?"
Hairston has excellent defensive range, the article mentions, but he "needs to show more restraint once he gets to the ball, rather than always attempting spectacular throws".
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No More Harboring Private Ideas!
by RationalWitness injust finished reading the august 1, 2001 watchtower.
the second study article is entitled how to make your advancement manifest.
well, after quoting ephesians 4:11-14, heres what paragraphs 8 and 9 advise:first, since oneness is to be observed, a mature christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned.
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Rational, I also read the article and commented on it in another thread. I did find the statements in question rather disturbing. Thanks.
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Batting averages: WTS vs apostle Peter
by Defender inthe society publishes an average of 22,000,000 wt and 19,000,000 number of awake magazines every two weeks.
if we assume that 6,000,000 of each go toward the number of active publishers as their personal copies.
that leaves 16,000,000 issues of wt + 13,000,000 for awake = 29,000,000 that are to be used for disciple making.. multiply 29,000,000 by 26 = 754,000,000 average yearly printing.. divide 754,000,000 by 288,907 (number of baptized in 2000) = 2609. yes, 2609 number of magazines (not counting books, brochures and tracts) must be distributed in order to recruit one new member.. now for the number of hours; .
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Interesting post. In my years of attending Circuit Assemblies, I have noticed that, besides JW kids, hardly anyone gets baptized. At one assembly a few years back, one person got baptized. Normally, the number is about 5 or 6, and again, most are children of JWs, not new disciples.
Now, in my circuit there are about 900 publishers. Let's say that they average about 10 hours per month in field service (the "national average"). That means that over a six-month period (the approximate time between scheduled assemblies), those 900 pubs spent a total of 9,000 hours each month, or 54,000 hours total, in the ministry. And yet, the result of all that time spent speaks for itself.
No wonder many Witnesses are just biding their time in service. Many that I have worked with have hardly read the magazines that the pretend to be so enthused about. Very few really have any inclination to make Return Visits (and no wonder...so few are even home and if so they rarely show any genuine interest). Very few Witnesses really even WANT to start a Bible Study with someone. And, after spending two nights a week, plus Sunday, at meetings, plus studying with their families, plus meeting preparation, plus field service, is it any wonder?
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This Board
by joelbear ini've been thinking a lot about this board and the people here over the past few days.. as most of you know, i got pretty pouty and threw a couple of fits over what i saw as being a wrong direction for the board.
i claimed doom was near, etc.
etc.. i have come to think that this board is very real.
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Hi Joel. I guess that what you are referring to is the condtional love that seems to permeate the JW faith. It is indeed very readily apparent. 'Think like we do, and we will love you. Do as we do, and we will love you'.
Unfortunately, in many human relationships, not just JW relationships, the same thinking is apparent. When people think like we do, we tend to embrace them. If not, we tend to distance ourselves from them. I think that's sad.
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My first time "storming" out!!
by lookingnow22 ini "stormed" out of a meeting for the first time in my life tonight.
well, i really just walked really fast, but inside myself i was storming.
anybody catch some of the insolent comments made in the 6/01km?
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Well, the proof is in the pudding, or so they say. What I mean is, how many young people are actually taking full-time service seriously? How many are really considering Bethel service? Not many, at least from my area. Over the past ten years, our congregation has had no Bethel applicants, and about two young people entering the full-time pioneer ranks. Most young people who graduate high school are now finding full-time jobs and/or going to college. So all the parts from the platform, all the KM and WT articles, and all the Convetion/Assembly parts do not seem to be really taken seriously by the majority of Witnesses when this subject matter comes up for consideration. We all sit through these parts, even comment on them, and then, lo and behold, our young people (and their parents, who have heard all this stuff before, and most of whom never went out and got a decent education) just figure the heck with it. And it's easy to see why.
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hi from a newbie!
by Princess inhi everyone, i have been "lurking" for a week or so and thought i'd join the fun.
i am a third generation jw who was determined not to make my kids the fourth!
my husband and i left almost five years ago and have never looked back and as a result have never been happier.. just a quick summary of the past thirteen years.... i never went to college (never even considered it) and was married two weeks after graduating from high school.
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Welcome Princess!
BTW, Mulan was a very funny movie!
Glad to see you are doing well. Two weeks ago, our Bookstudy conductor said that people who leave the organization always end up with messed up lives. Seems you are proving that statement wrong.
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Is there any JW's on here?
by Devilman iniam trying to work out how many of u are proper witnesses?
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I am a JW, have been baptized almost 30 years. I am currently in good standing in the congregation. Of course, if it were "known" in my congregation that I frequented this site, that 'standing' might not be considered 'good' any longer.
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latest WT thoughts for the day
by truman inthe august 1 wt arrived in my mailbox today.
i eagerly ripped off the wrapper in anticipation of fresh spiritual gems.
i was not disappointed.
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Tru, I recieved my WT in the mail today also, and noted the statements you highlight.
Particularly, the statement that "he...does not harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding". That one really struck me. While I can see why stating personal opinions from the platform or stongly advocating such ideas could affect a congregagtion's unity (meetings, in my view, would become debate forums...though they probably would be far more interesting, LOL), I had always figured that having some private ideas was okay. I guess not, according to the WTS. Disturbing indeed.