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  2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

  by pale.emperor in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

  no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

  instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

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  It's all bull$hit!
  
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  May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers

  by wifibandit in

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  may 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.

  uk version.

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  Your story rings true with me, Hairtrigger! Back in the '70's when I was a Pioneer, the hours goal was set at 100 hours per month. Every month, I would barely claim about 90 hours and sometimes actually make the 100 hours. My Pioneer partner, on the other hand, consistently reported anywhere from 105-115 hours. Today, he is a well respected Elder and I am 'persona non gratia' and have no association with the religion.

  It's all bull$hit!
  
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  May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers

  by wifibandit in

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  may 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.

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  PIONEER: from Old French peonier foot soldier, from peon foot soldier. - Merriam Webster Online Dictionary.

  Why so many childish rules and regulations for a Watchtower Peon? More rules and regulations to prop up the Ecclesiastical Hierarchy known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
  
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  Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  “there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

  it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

  jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

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  In other words, Bend over , the Governing Body (tm) is getting ready to 'feed' you some New Light!
  
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  Words for the Day; please share

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, word lovers:.

  in my job, i work with words and wrangle them into shape, well, in a manner of speaking.

  one word might be mistaken for another, a word with either a similar or identical sound.

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  Humerus

  Humorous
  

  As it turns out, breaking your arm is no laughing matter!
  
  
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  Marrying yourself is now a thing....

  by James Mixon in

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  ok i'am old so i need some help to understand this new thing, what's the point in marrying yourself?

  this sound like a gb brain storm idea....i guess you can never commit adultery....

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  At first I thought this was a 'tongue in cheek' topic and found it to be quite humorous! It turns out that it is a REAL thing. The technical term for it is: SOLOGAMY.
  
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  "And what is your refutation of him using a Knights Templar symbol on the front cover of Zion's Watchtower?" - Finkelstein

  Are you referring to the image of a knight on the right upper corner of the magazine? If so, please provide evidence that this is an 'official' or 'sanctioned' symbol in usage by the Knights Templar. I have perused hundreds of images online and have yet to find this exact image. Also, I have gone on to some Templar sites and cannot find this image. Perhaps I have missed it and you can help me with this.
  
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  "There is no debate or question concerning Russell's being influenced by some of the unique Freemason theological ideas of which Pyramidolgy stems from"- Finkelstein

  Actually this too is open to debate. Vienne rightly points to Smyth and Seiss as the most influential writers that influenced Pastor Russell's interest in pyramidology. However, Russell's 'theological' interest in the Great Pyramid may have been 'refined' by another minor thinker involved in the 'pyramid' discussion:

  " A few year's after Prof. Smyth's return, came the suggestion that the Great Pyramid is Jehovah's "Witness", and that it is as important a witness to divine truth as to natural science. This was a new thought to Prof. Smyth, as well as to others. The suggestion came from a young Scotsman, Robert Menzies, who, when studying the scientific teachings of the Great Pyramid, discovered that prophetic and chronological teachings co-exist in it." - THY KINGDOM COME 1908 edition STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES pg 320 paragraph 1 (italics mine)

  "In a letter to Prof. Smyth, Mr. Robert Menzies, the young Scotsman who first suggested the religious or Messianic feature of the Great Pyramids teaching,......"- THY KINGDOM COME 1908 edition STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTUES pg 337 paragraph 1 (italics mine)

  These quotes seem to indicate the Russell admits that he got his religious or theological inspiration for his own brand of pyramid quackery not from Freemasonry but from a gentleman named Robert Menzies.
  
  
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  Sorry Finkelstein.............Russell was raised a Presbyterian and later joined the Congregational Church. Both have used the 'Cross and Crown' logo and it would seem more logical that he would have retained this tradition himself and carried it forth to the new religion that he was forming.

  
  
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  I enjoy many of your comments, Finkelstein and respect much of what you have to say in regard to the Watchtower Society. However, I think that you are grasping at straws by using the cross and crown logo to connect Russell to Masonry. Many 'Christian' churches have used this logo in their history and have no connection with the Masons.