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  Rain

  by Frenchy in

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  okay, one more time and then i'm outta here!

  (hey you're supposed to say something!).

  rain.

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  I could use some rain right now...
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  Arrogance? When will we humans learn we are not the center of everything?

  by mavie in

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  we humans are an arrogant, anthropocentric species.

  ptolemy posited that the earth was the center of the universe.

  once copernicus began to show that the sun, not earth, was at the center of our solar system, some still believed that the sun at least was the center of the universe.

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  In response to this thread: when dolphins construct & staff hospitals, when whales quit beaching themselves, when chimpanzees institute a democratic from of government, and when mountain gorillas find a cure for the common cold, then I'll stop being an "anthrocentric."

  
  Maybe I should explain what this thread means to me. When I ask that we as humans stop being so self-centered and self-important, I ask it because I hope to see a world where humans can live in harmony with the Earth. What do I mean by that? Well, our self-important attitude is the cause of many of the environmental problems we see today. Want examples?
  

  It's about thinking beyond yourself. Altruism? Maybe.

  
  
  Edit: Sacchiel, thank you for the correction.
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  Arrogance? When will we humans learn we are not the center of everything?

  by mavie in

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  we humans are an arrogant, anthropocentric species.

  ptolemy posited that the earth was the center of the universe.

  once copernicus began to show that the sun, not earth, was at the center of our solar system, some still believed that the sun at least was the center of the universe.

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  the misunderstanding that homo sapiens is somehow atypically special, and I think this is more often due to simply having not been presented with the facts, rather than arrogance.

  Even when presented with facts, I've seen individuals cling to arrogant beliefs.
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  Stupid Witnesses!

  by hamilton_russell in

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  i just got a visit from my jdub cousin.

  not seen him for a year or so.. anyway he's telling me that he's selling his house (his first place bought 2 years ago) as the society are telling them all that the end is in sight sooner than they think!

  and he said that he's gonna go part time at work cos he loves the aux pioneering he did last month!!!

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  Just thought I'd let everyone know that I'm going back to the KH. I don't like generalizing an entire people as stupid. I'm selling all my 'worldly' possesions to finance my pioneer work starting in Sept. I hope to get my hours on this board witnessing to you apostates in the hope you will see the light.
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  Were your parents a different religion before JDubism?

  by Crumpet in

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  i know an awful lot here are 3rd and 4th generation - but were there any who's parents become dubs as adults?

  i'd be interested to here what it was that made an adult become a jw when not brought up that way?.

  i'll relate my parents experience shortly...but its something i;ve been thinking about a lot.

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  Catholic. Entire family was Catholic. Now they are all JW's.
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  Arrogance? When will we humans learn we are not the center of everything?

  by mavie in

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  we humans are an arrogant, anthropocentric species.

  ptolemy posited that the earth was the center of the universe.

  once copernicus began to show that the sun, not earth, was at the center of our solar system, some still believed that the sun at least was the center of the universe.

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  We humans are an arrogant, anthropocentric species. Consider the following:

  Ptolemy posited that the Earth was the center of the universe. Once Copernicus began to show that the Sun, not Earth, was at the center of our solar system, some still believed that the Sun at least was the center of the universe. Fast forward a few hundred years, our Sun has been shown to be an average star on the outskirts of an average galaxy. At least we still have the fact that humans are made in God's image, right? Enter Darwin and evolutionary biology.

  I see the next chapter in this story being written today, with the evolving (no pun intended) view that God used evolution in 'creating' mankind. If so, at what point in the evolutionary process did God decide we became human and worthy of an afterlife? When we got opposable thumbs?

  Can anyone else add any human centered views we as a species have held?
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  Why Do Inactive Ones Sometimes Go Back To The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  For me, the only thing keeping me in right now is family. I suspect that many inactive ones return for family.
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  Baptism - To Whom?

  by mavie in

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  thanks to drew for originally posting this in one of sagan's threads.

  in light of the questions for baptism, specifically question 2:.

  (1) on the basis of the sacrifice of jesus christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to jehovah to do his will?

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  Thanks Mavie-baby good point, I brought up this one with my mum (cant paste the link just go to my topics) Thats great stuff its the cherry on top of my previous convo, the KO. ahh you know they pass it off as apostate

  How can this be apostate? It is straight from JW literature!
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  Baptism - To Whom?

  by mavie in

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  thanks to drew for originally posting this in one of sagan's threads.

  in light of the questions for baptism, specifically question 2:.

  (1) on the basis of the sacrifice of jesus christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to jehovah to do his will?

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  Thanks to Drew for originally posting this in one of Sagan's threads.

  In light of the questions for baptism, specifically question 2:

  (1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

  (2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism.

  Now, consider the 'Bible Teach' book...

  "What Does The Bible Really Teach?" At the back, on page 184 it says this:

  However, baptism is not a mere bath. It is a symbol of something very important. Going beneath the water symbolizes that you have died to your former life course. Being raised up out of the water indicates that you are now alive to do the will of God. Remember, too, that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization. Your dedication and baptism are the beginning of a very close friendship with God—an intimate relationship with him.

  How do they get out of this?
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  CO Meeting w/Elders ("Lazy elders", Tattoos, Auto accidents)

  by doinmypart in

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  a few points from the 2006 biannual c.o.

  meeting w/elders & ms. the theme was "take a personal interest in others"...phil 2:4,5. shepherding work.

  we have lives in our hands.

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  can any other servants or elders confirm this crap?