Posts by CloseTheDoor

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Icons, venerated symbols, and organizations

by CloseTheDoor in

a recently published article called "a feast to jehovah" at http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/12/a-feast-to-jehovah/ discusses the use of icons, venerated symbols and organizations, the jw.org logo, and more being used in the org.some of you might find it interesting as some of the comments on the site (and in other article) which are often from current (but thinking) jws.

CloseTheDoor

A recently published article called "A Feast to Jehovah" at http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/12/a-feast-to-jehovah/ discusses the use of icons, venerated symbols and organizations, the JW.org logo, and more being used in the Org.

Some of you might find it interesting as some of the comments on the site (and in other article) which are often from current (but thinking) JWs.

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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?

by John Aquila in

if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.

during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.

a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.

CloseTheDoor

A lot of Witnesses I have spoken to in my congregation and in the region have become numb to the "it's almost over", "here comes the new system" hype. But then there are others that think ISIS could be a herald to Armageddon. Most of the younger kids now have no care about it whatsoever. They're only interested in their JW.org logos on their ipads.

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Blind Guide Dog.... Erhmmmm

by CloseTheDoor in

i saw this on facebook.

i'm nauseous from reading.

it's just another example of how some will go so far to make up bs and pawn it off as "truth.".

CloseTheDoor

I have a border collie, and it is considered to be among the smartest dog breeds. Even though he is smart, Butch doesn't know the difference between Sunday and Wednesday.

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JW Records Request - United States

by cappytan in

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has anyone in the united states ever successfully gotten their publisher records from the society?

CloseTheDoor

There are other files that they keep, such as disciplinary action, notes, any correspondence you had between you, elders and the WT. A brother I knew was able to obtain some of those notes, but not all of them.

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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?

by John Aquila in

if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.

during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.

a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.

CloseTheDoor

Pioneering in the 50, 60s was about idealism. The end of the world was near, Armageddon or not. did not even think about paradise. The HMS "wtBtS" has been re-named (no Champagne broken on the bow) "jWorg". the hot air of doctrine is at a lull, yet the ship is tacking vigorously as ever, now the crew are required to man the oars more vigorously or via pledged "contributions" fuel the hopeless voyage, with no destiny on the horizon. The sea of humanity was actually a better, natural place and still is.

Well said, prologos.

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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?

by John Aquila in

if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.

during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.

a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.

CloseTheDoor

the organization's history is peppered with examples of the rank and file's difficulties maintaining faith in an organization that keeps saying the end is 'close, so very close'.

Steve2, my parents were Bible Students, and at first they had a difficult time with the redefining of the "new covenant" by Russell and the 1914 failure (not the end, but now the beginning), but they eventually accepted it as truth.

Later as things continued to change, they remained in the Organization (by then it was under Rutherford) but they began losing faith in Rutherford as being a servant of God.

So much has changed since I was a kid. The change about Jews being regathered to their land, the multiple changes regarding those who will/won't be resurrected... so many. The change regarding the 1914 generation affected my wife and I, along with the "refined" teaching about the FDS, but at our age, it would be extremely difficult to leave the Org. with so many family members still remaining.

I happen to be one of those "millions now living", but I'm sure it won't last as was promised back in '25.

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Average Age of this Forum?

by Garrett in

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heyo!.

i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

CloseTheDoor

I will be 91 this year.

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JW Records Request - United States

by cappytan in

jw
friends

has anyone in the united states ever successfully gotten their publisher records from the society?

CloseTheDoor

I know of a brother who did, but it took a court order. I do not know any other details about it, except that some material was left out and the court agreed to that. That was in the U.S.

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Blind Guide Dog.... Erhmmmm

by CloseTheDoor in

i saw this on facebook.

i'm nauseous from reading.

it's just another example of how some will go so far to make up bs and pawn it off as "truth.".

CloseTheDoor

Prefect, a blind man once told me that same joke. Very funny.

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Blind Guide Dog.... Erhmmmm

by CloseTheDoor in

i saw this on facebook.

i'm nauseous from reading.

it's just another example of how some will go so far to make up bs and pawn it off as "truth.".

CloseTheDoor

I saw this on Facebook. I'm nauseous from reading. It's just another example of how some will go so far to make up BS and pawn it off as "truth."

Years ago in another KH I attended, a blind woman visited after being invited by a Witness. She brought with her a blind guide dog but was told to leave the dog tied up to a fence outside. She complied, but never came back again.

This has been told many times so I decided to share with everyone..
In England, one of our blind brothers had a guide dog that would faithfully take him to the meetings each week.
The dog got into the routine of bringing our brother every Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday to the Kingdom Hall.
When our brother died, the dog became the property of another blind person, this time a non-Witness.
The dog left the man puzzled.
Every Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays the dog was raring to go and encouraging his owner to leave the house.
So finally, the man followed the dog’s lead, and unknown to him, he was brought to the Kingdom Hall and guided to a chair. The man didn’t know where he was, but he enjoyed the warm reception he got from everyone. He started to study the Bible with the Witnesses.
Not only does this experience show how Jehovah can even use his animal creation to bring someone into the Truth, but… also: If a dog knows where he should be on Tues., Thurs., and Sundays, isn’t it a good example for us and our own meeting attendance ? ?
We now have only TWO DAYS to attend Meetings weekly… Only Two
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