Posts by CloseTheDoor

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The 144,000 cause a SLIGHT problem!

by The Searcher in

the following five references succinctly explain that christ's sacrifice exactly matched what was lost by adam.

that's why christ is described as the "last adam.

" (1 corinthians 15:45) .

Who are the people in JW TV videos?

by HappyDad in

jw
friends

out of curiosity, i have caught a glimpse or two of the "drama" style videos.

are the ones in these televised "dramas" jw's or did they hire actors for the job?

i can't see the average jw being able to do acting as good (if you will call it good) as some of these people.

JW.ORG on Everything

by anonread in

why do they have jw.org on all their social medai like instagram.

were they told to do that?

also wtf is up with all their accounts being private??

CloseTheDoor

I told my wife the other day that putting that logo on everything is akin to idolatry.

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

CloseTheDoor

I have enjoyed the site immensely since it started, as I agree with much of what the author and many of the commenters have stated.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

CloseTheDoor

There was a time in the organization when love of Jehovah and Jesus was not tied in with "loving" and being "dedicated" to the Society - a mere publishing company. Many older and some other JWs still believe this way, including myself. This is especially the case with many born in JWs of aged years.

As I mentioned in another post, the earlier publications always encouraged readers to carefully examine their statements against the Bible, and if something didn't add up, then false statements should be tossed aside.

Attending a KH, going out in the ministry and sharing Bible verses and basic tracts (not GB/WT chronology garbage or other false doctrines) is considered by some as their duty (Matthew 28:19). Baptism is another thing. Without going into great detail, there are ways to get baptized and officially recognized by the congregation without going through those silly questions. Some of us did not pledge allegiance to the GB. Things were very different back in the day, and some of us have taught that to our children and Bible studies too. Personally, I don't attempt to bring any of my Bible studies to the congregation or have them "join" anything.

Service to Jehovah and dedication to the GB are two different things. Some Witnesses can't see that. Most x-JWs will never see the difference. Attending KH meetings does not make one a follower of the GB. I don't consider myself, my family or many in my cong. as R&F Witnesses.

"Do and observe everything that they tell you; but do not imitate their deeds, for they say things and do not do them. And they pack heavy loads and lay them on men's shoulders, but will not move them with a finger themselves. And all their moral acts they do with an eye to being viewed by men." (Matthew 23:3-5 - Bible in Living English)

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Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

by zophar in

jw
friends

if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

CloseTheDoor

Now, here is what is truly amazing. After showing how the interpretation was wrong, Paragraph 9 in tomorrow's lesson says: "For many years, God's people found this approach to Bible accounts faith strengthening." In other words, "We were wrong in our interpretations but these false understandings were still faith strengthening!

It bothered me when I began to prepare for the study.

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Floyd Kite's "Enduring the Tests Within God's Organization" (1980)

by Leolaia in

thats a big test.

can you think of the test that that would put on gods people?

its a big test, its a big test.

CloseTheDoor

Marked.

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Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

by Xanthippe in

when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

still people find it so hard to leave.

CloseTheDoor

I imagine more will leave with the recent money grabbing video. The main reason I remain within is to help some of my family.

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behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

by Magnum in

i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

i really cared about the people in the field.

i thought their lives were in danger.

CloseTheDoor

If interested, this guidelines document gives some insight into the method in which the local KH orders literature from the Org/Soc. It indicates some guidelines and limitations on what can and can't be ordered. The document is published by the Org.

http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/TpwkQA6

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

CloseTheDoor

Remember, too, that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization.

CloseTheDoor

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Slave4_38y, indeed.