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  "Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"

  by Simon in

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  have you heard that old chestnut?

  i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.

  they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..

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  My wife said this to me last Winter, when I shared TTATT with her. Now she denies having said it.
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  Stupid Organization!

  by stillin in

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  2. beliefs

  a while back, a local witness lost their home in a fire.

  an announcement was made at the meeting that if anybody wanted to contribute, they could do so through their service group overseer.

  my guess is that this arrangement is meant to bring tears of joy to the eyes of the impoverished one, and thankfulness to "jehovah's organization.

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  They did this for a coworker once. They were having some kind of financial trouble. An announcement was made from the platform, and by the end of the program, he was handed over $2000 in cash.

  Of course, by "they", I mean a local church group, not a congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  See, Jehovah surely is blessing the Jesus Christ Church or whatever their little group calls themselves...
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  Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

  comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

  they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

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  I'm really enjoying these posts Cofty.

  ERVs are irrefutable evidence of evolution.
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  Building layoffs & JW calendar 2016 theme

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the theme of the jw calendar 2016 is building, building, building.

  all the calendar pictures are about building wts property with cheap labor witnesses.. and then, just before the year approaches the building has halted.. it seems a short term decision.

  a strange correlation again.. gorby.

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  They advocate cognitive dissonance.

  • We're not building anything anymore. However, we're definitely still building things.
  • We don't shun, however we totally do shun.
  • We don't claim to be prophets, however we're totally prophets.
  • Don't add or take anything away from the scriptures, however here's a bunch of books with a bunch of extra rules. Follow them or die. It's totally up to you.
  • You have free will. Just do whatever we say or else.
  • We don't have child molesters, except for all of the child molesters we have.
  • Love your neighbor, unless they're not a JW or are a former JW, then hate your neighbor. But still love them. Just treat them hatefully.

  etc. etc. etc.
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  Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

  by TheListener in

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  2. friends

  there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

  south africa.

  united states.

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  Canada,

  Brazil - This might have just been special pioneers.

  Various remote bethelites around the globe
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  Bethel Layoff Notices arrive under Bethellite doors

  by Quarterback in

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  2. friends

  just heard from a reliable source that some at the canadian branch have received their lay-off notices under their doors at bethel.

  don't know what the letter looks like.

  probably something like, " the tribe has spoken, bring us your torches"

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  Dear minion,

  GTFO.

  Sincerely,

  Jehovah.
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  Old is Becoming New Again?

  by Tazemanian-devil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it just me, or does it seem like jw.org is returning to some very old methods from rutherford's era?.

  - their carts / booths is very reminiscent of the sandwich board system, including the fact that they no longer personally engage.

  - showing videos via the tablet / smartphone is almost exactly like the phonograph method they used.

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  Is it just me, or does it seem like JW.org is returning to some very old methods from Rutherford's era?

  - Their carts / booths is very reminiscent of the sandwich board system, including the fact that they no longer personally engage

  - Showing videos via the tablet / smartphone is almost exactly like the phonograph method they used

  - Showing videos at conventions makes the convention much more like when they only had one major convention, such as the Cedar Point Ohio amusement park convention that everybody had to travel to

  Assuming this is true, and the current GB is trying to copy things that seemed to work way back when, I wonder what other changes are in store?

  It already seems like they're working toward moving back to a MUCH smaller bethel family, perhaps even eventually closing all branches and working from Warwick alone at some point.

  Do you think they'll go back to some other old school methods? For example, they could eliminate elder bodies again, and return to the "congregation servant" model that Rutherford instituted, because it's much easier to control one or two people instead of 6 or 8 or more per congregation. Just choose a "company man", such as the current COBE of an infamous US congregation famous for it's issue with apostasy in the 80's, who knows TTATT but stays loyal to the org anyway, who will do exactly what the org tells him to.

  What do you think?
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  Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

  apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

  so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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  I bet if someone got the bright idea to count the number of residence rooms at Warwick, and compare them to the number of current residence rooms at the locations that they're getting rid of, they'd probably immediately see that they were planning all along to kick a bunch of bethelites to the curb.
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  Clarifying This Weeks Watchtower...CTR Reference

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what the sunday watchtard said.... in 1876, an article written by charles taze russell was published in the magazine bible examiner.

  that article, gentile times: when do they end?, pointed to 1914 as a significant year.

  the article linked the seven times of daniels prophecy with the appointed times of the nations spoken of by jesus.. what gentile times: when do they end?

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  Harold Camping said that 2011 would be a significant year. He was right. Wikipedia turned ten that year.
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  WAKING UP A DUB : effective communication

  by Terry in

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  words that motivate.

  our communication has to pass through the mind of another human being and survive what his or her mind is going to do with it!.

  wordsby themselveshave to motivate the listener in the same way a combination lock will open if the correct numbers are dialed in exactly the correct sequence.

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  Beautiful, very well written article. I have to remember these points when trying to unindoctrinate my wife.