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  Could Iraq defeat the US

  by JH in

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  could a war with iraq be more difficult than expected?

  i found an interesting site, where they claim that iraq could indeed defeat the us.

  tell me your comments after reading it.

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  freedom96

  Iraq will never defeat the US. Period.
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  Multi-level selling traps and JWs

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  why is it that jw`s get `hooked` into the latest multi-level marketing ploys

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  Ballistic -

  I would be concerned about getting involved with any MLM company that generates their leads for recruitment by mail. Sometimes the MLM is based on finding leads.

  Being a businessman myself, I would want to know who I am involved with, and that would be helpful with eye contact, and sitting down with someone.

  I would not want to be involved with business with just any yayhoo that comes along.
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  Spanish Navy intercepts 12 scuds

  by freeman in

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  just heard on the news the spanish navy got a tip from us intelligence and with that info seized a north koran ship loaded with 12 scud missiles on its way to yemen, with a final destination of iraq or iran.

  look like bush called it correctly, an axis of evil indeed.. .

  freeman edited by - freeman on 10 december 2002 18:49:40.

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  freedom96

  We will have to see what this ultimately turns out to be.

  Maybe the ship should have not been intercepted, and let the rockets go to their final destination. They probably were just for decoration anyways. Saddam wouldn't really use them now would he?

  (NOTE: Huge sarcasm here)
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  What happened inbetween?

  by freedom96 in

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  i used to ask my elder dad: what about those who lived inbetween the bible days, and when the witnesses started?.

  the wts teaches that no one will survive unless they are a witness.

  they may dance around that issue with a "wordly" person, but, that really is the way they teach.. so we have the people talked about in the bible, and then we go until the very end of the 1800's.

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  I used to ask my elder dad: What about those who lived inbetween the bible days, and when the witnesses started?

  The WTS teaches that no one will survive unless they are a witness. They may dance around that issue with a "wordly" person, but, that really is the way they teach.

  So we have the people talked about in the bible, and then we go until the very end of the 1800's. According the WTS, what happened to these millions if not billions of people? Will they not get "everlasting life on earth" because they were not witnesses?

  Not fair, when we had to do all the WTS crap!
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  Do You Ever Wonder If Your Wife/Husband?Partner

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  do you ever wonder if your wife / husband?

  partner?

  is my wife here?

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  freedom96

  Thats funny WildTurkey!

  My wife and I both enjoy this site.
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  Poll: Which is worse, Dubs or Morons???

  by WingCommander in

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  just a poll for today:.

  which is worse, the j'dubs or the mormons (moroni)????

  in my opinion both are pretty screwed in the head.

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  freedom96

  I would have to say witnesses are far worse. At least the mormons help the community. They are not consumed with "being different." They celebrate holidays, they have social events for the kids and teenagers, as well as adult social events. They will serve in the military, and best of all:

  ONLY 2 DAMN YEARS GOING DOOR TO DOOR. THAT'S IT! YOU ARE DONE!!

  Yes, I agree many of their teachings are weird......
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  After you got baptized

  by freedom96 in

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  when my mom was studying, the sisters went out of their way to love on her, and to help her out.

  she was a single mom back then.

  one of the biggest things they did was babysit for her, while she had to go out and work.

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  When my mom was studying, the sisters went out of their way to love on her, and to help her out. She was a single mom back then. One of the biggest things they did was babysit for her, while she had to go out and work. She was not able to afford day care, so this came as a huge help for her.

  Immediately after baptizm, these "loving" sisters were no longer willing to help out. At least, not for free. It was if they were jeckel and hyde. Now, they demanded money payment. Or, if she had none, some were willing to take her food stamps. The way it was handled was cruel, and mean spirited.

  Needless to say, they were just showing a "fake love" originally. Their true colors came out.

  My question for everyone out there is : Where their sudden changes in the way people treated you once you got baptized?
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  Multi-level selling traps and JWs

  by Debz in

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  freedom96

  It always amazes me how many people contradict what they are saying regarding MLM's.

  First, people get offended when "others make money from others". For God's sake.... what the hell do you think happens when you go to work?? Is not someone paying someone for some service or product? That is business! For those who have their own businesses like myself, you understand that. If that did not take place somehow, in some way shape or form, then businesses would not be.

  For those who would never participate in a "pyramid", then you better quit your job. I have posted before, that I own 3 businesses. You better believe that my employees will never make more than me. THAT, my friends, could be said to be a pyramid. There will always be the low paying jobs, and above that maybe a sales force, and then maybe some management, and then the owner. That is the way that it works. That is business. I am not better than them, it is just the way it is. I own it, therefore I should make more. If you were in my shoes, you would agree.

  The idea in a MLM is that everyone has the same opportunity. Some of course are better for others, and yes, there are some scams out there. But, there are a few companies that have stood the test of time, and they do work.

  And there comes the other statements. People don't like the "get rich" scheme, and then get involved with a company, and then bitch because they didn't become rich overnight.

  Any business, takes hard work. I know. And when you try hard enough, and long enough, then it pays off.

  If a certain business does not interest someone, then just don't do it. I don't think it is cool to bash someone else because they are doing something that you are not willing to do. I don't look at a doctor, and say to myself "What a scam. I go in the office, wait an half hour to be seen, and then they talk to me, poke me a couple of times, and leave after 3 minutes and charge me $200 bucks. All doctors must be scum and sleazy, no one should make that kind of money." Yes, that statement sounds stupid, but people don't think twice about saying that about a MLM.

  The fact is, that what creates the illusion of scams, is the people, not the business. The fact is, most of these companies do indeed work, if a person works them. (the same of any type business.) So what you have is a person that annoys the hell out of you, trying to get you involved in whatever he is doing. So then we label anyone doing that a jerk, or it is a scam. Same with lawyers. Oh how we hate them, but some are nice. You can take about any profession and find jerks. Does not mean that the whole industry sucks.

  For myself, my hat is off to anyone who steps forward and tries something that others are just not willing to do. Even more respect to them if they stick with it. I don't care if it is a software company, a McDonalds, or even an Amway business. Good for them, and as long as they treat people with integrity, Go For It!! Who am I to take away their personal dreams and desires?
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  My story growing up as a JW ........

  by WingCommander in

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  jw kids = "children of the corn".

  growing up as a j-dub, i have seen all of the special treatment most jw kids and elders kids recieved in general.

  while, no you were not allowed to celebrate holidays, etc, being a jw child meant you could do no wrong.

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  freedom96

  I am suprised at how many postings have talked about the JW kid, and how they got away with everything, and were worse than many "wordly" kids.

  I too grew up as the son of an elder, and I'll tell you, no kid got away with anything in my hall. Not me, nor anyone else. My dad was not the bully elder in our area, but kids were too scared to do anything.

  The kids I grew up with for the most part were some decent kids.
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  Does praying "work"?

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  has anybody got any hard evidence that asking for something, through prayer, actually gives them what they were asking for?.

  jesus promised to give anything to them that asked.

  have you asked for something (in prayer), but it hasn't been given?.

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  freedom96

  I think praying works.

  I believe a person should pray as if it depends on God, and act as though it depends on them.

  I always thought the song "Unanswered Prayers" by Garth Brooks was excellent. A good message in it if one takes the time to understand the meaning of the song.