Posts by rassillon

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Lost

by youcanhaveago in

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haven't been on here for months and months .. .

completely lost and screwed up.. please don't be offended but some stuff on here does my head in .... .

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rassillon

youcanhaveago,

Hey there, many have been in the same position as you.....myself as well.....not that long ago.

Note that the reason you are here is that you desire truth. That is important. You may feel like you don't have an anchor, but that is just because you have to get your "I can think for myself" legs. It is different when you have to start formulating your own thoughts and not everything will have an answer like you are used to in the organization.

Take a breath, pray if you are so inclined (I was/am).

Some people go off the deep end, Don't do that.

Some people thing that just because they were lied to that everybody are liars and totally reject their faith. Don't do that.

Find what works for you.

Some find that they have no faith or become agnostic or whatever.....that is cool....some remain christian....that is cool too.

Just don't rush into any belief system.

Also watch out for the Super Duper Evangelical Jesus Junkies who will no doubt PM you with why you should accept Jesus into your heart and be saved.....

Blah Blah Blah

I am a christian but these people put a bad taste in my mouth.

Just take it easy, smell the roses, It is like waking up. Ease into the day, have a coffee, then when you are wide awake, decide what you want to do.

Peace,

-rassillon

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A couple of "Kingdom Come" Appendix ch14 Questions

by rassillon in

i have searched the forum and i have read alan's .

"http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/refutation-of-appendix-in-let-your.html" .

i have it as a bookmark!

rassillon

Atlantis, Nevada?.....I am sure the scans are helpful, thanks

Doug, I appreciate your input, I will read your thread.

I have in my own estimation a fairly good understanding of most of the chronology but any additional info is always good.

Did you have any comments about my specific questions?

I have found a reference which indicates that Persians used a regnal system based on the lunar year.

Now just to find when the lunar year starts.

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Trinity?

by BFD in

i am reading the bible for the first time.

i was df'd in 1976 and lived my whole life thinking the jws have the truth and i just could not live up to the standard and was doomed to die at the big a without question.

until i found jwd 31 years later.

rassillon

It seems that if some one is a trinitarian they will see the trinity in the bible

If someone is not a trinitarian they will not see the trinity in the bible.

There is no way this can be answered one way or the other, it just wasn't that important for God to spell it out.

Here we go let's ask God if it is important.

Hey there God, we all want to know, are you a trinity as we understand it or not?

If it is not important feel free to not wasting your time replying.

Thanks!

There you go if God replys we will know, if not it doesn't matter.

-rassillon of the "I see no explicit trinity in the bible and I am not willing to go further than what is written class"

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A couple of "Kingdom Come" Appendix ch14 Questions

by rassillon in

i have searched the forum and i have read alan's .

"http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/refutation-of-appendix-in-let-your.html" .

i have it as a bookmark!

rassillon

I have searched the forum and I have read Alan's
"http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/refutation-of-appendix-in-let-your.html"
I have it as a bookmark!

I have not found or maybe I am just can't focus enough to read anymore.

But I have a couple of specific questions, References or quotations of earlier works will be just fine.

Thanks in advance also.

[First]
In the paragraph which starts on page 188 and ends on page 189 it states

But the Bible itself provides even more telling evidence against the claim that the 70 years began in 605 B.C.E. and that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587/6 B.C.E. As mentioned, if we were to count from 605 B.C.E., the 70 years would reach down to 535 B.C.E. However, the inspired Bible writer Ezra reported that the 70 years ran until “the first year of Cyrus the king of Persia,” who issued a decree allowing the Jews to return to their homeland. (Ezra 1:1-4; 2 Chronicles 36:21-23) Historians accept that Cyrus conquered Babylon in October 539 B.C.E. and that Cyrus’ first regnal year began in the spring of 538 B.C.E. If Cyrus’ decree came late in his first regnal year, the Jews could easily be back in their homeland by the seventh month (Tishri) as Ezra 3:1 says; this would be October 537 B.C.E.

It speaks of Cyrus "first" year. Now is a switch-a-roo being pulled here? Did Cyrus' first year start in 539 (accession) or did it start in 538 (regnal). I know that 538 would be the first regnal year but when the Bible speaks about his "first year" would that refer to his accession or regnal year? Did the Persians count accession year?

[Second]
Has anyone pointed out the inconsistency between the claim in the above paragraph
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:"the 70 years ran until “the first year of Cyrus the king of Persia,”"

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****This would be 539 or 538 (accession or regnal)---dependent on the answer to the above.
AND the statement in the last paragraph
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that the 70 years began with the complete desolation of Judah after Jerusalem was destroyed.

****The complete desolation did not come until years after Jerusalem was destroyed*****
:...
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counting back 70 years from when the Jews returned to their homeland in 537 B.C.E

:
******This ignores their argument just a few paragraphs above.
******This also ignores the laps of time between the destruction of Jerusalem and
******the desolation of Judah that they JUST stated in the same paragraph.

I swear I had another one but I think I have been reading too much.
-r

*****I had to edit the post because firefox removed all my spacing and someone would have said that paragraphs are our friends. ;)

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What was an Episkope in the 1st century Christian Congregation

by rassillon in

one that held that position, what were they responsible for?.

i understand that congregations were communal and shared resources.. was an episkope an overseer of spiritual matters or physical needs such as food and money, political structure?.

i guess i am asking an "overseer" of "what"?.

rassillon

Thanks for everyones input.

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What was an Episkope in the 1st century Christian Congregation

by rassillon in

one that held that position, what were they responsible for?.

i understand that congregations were communal and shared resources.. was an episkope an overseer of spiritual matters or physical needs such as food and money, political structure?.

i guess i am asking an "overseer" of "what"?.

rassillon

Narkissos

When I wrote communal I meant not that they all lived together but rather ones in the church which had more would share with those who were in need. A community inside a community

I suppose I chose the wrong word.

Regarding your quoting Ignatius, I was reading on BGreek that the POV expressed in his writing were not actually representative of the thought found in the NT but rather a post early christian (if that makes sense) viewpoint. I am not an expert and may just be misunderstanding.

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What was an Episkope in the 1st century Christian Congregation

by rassillon in

one that held that position, what were they responsible for?.

i understand that congregations were communal and shared resources.. was an episkope an overseer of spiritual matters or physical needs such as food and money, political structure?.

i guess i am asking an "overseer" of "what"?.

rassillon

One that held that position, what were they responsible for?

I understand that congregations were communal and shared resources.

Was an Episkope an overseer of Spiritual matters or physical needs such as food and money, political structure?

I guess I am asking an "overseer" of "what"?

-r

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Would U Be Offended If A Lesbian Couple Showed Affection in A Public Place

by minimus in

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in missouri at a ihop, a lesbian kissed another female (her gf) on the cheek, once while sitting in the restaurant.

the manager went over to the ladies and told them they were not welcomed there and therefore had to leave.

the women described the kiss on the cheek as a similar type of kiss to an "uncle".

rassillon

I = International

H = House

O = Of

P = Pancakes

I would be offended if they were ugly, but I am offended when any ugly people kiss!

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YouTube: "Jehovah Is His Name" by E-Watchman/RobertKing

by sf in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgu7yakws0.

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rassillon

Robert King is a delusional paranoid retard......

My apologies to those retards I may have offended by comparing RK to you.

-r

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This board is not for me.

by Wafe in

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when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.

i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.

not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .

rassillon

Wafe,

I hope you stay. No one person has it right. They just don't.

I have my beliefs and those that don't agree with me I examine their claims if I feel like it or don't if I not.

Most stuff I just let it roll off my back. I suggest you do the same.....it helps to be this way in life.

Otherwise you will always be running from something.

Either way, your contribution is appreciated and if you do decide to go, go in peace and God be with you.

-r