Posts by tan

will increased pressure - pickets, websites, books, letters to fellow witnesses, have a positive or negative impact on the ultimate goal most apostates have - seeing the organization eventually crumble and fall?.

my take is that more pressure is good.

it makes the 'real personality' of the organization express itself in greater oppression, more demands, greater efforts to isolate the flock from education, career, family, reality.. eventual result of oppression is rebellion.

tan

"Apostate" information, websites, etc., did not influence me to leave. The actionsn of the WTS and its representatives convinced me that they were not God's organization.

The actions of the so called JW's influenced me the most and that it happened just in one congregation but that it was occuring in other congregations. The fakeness of the people effected a lot too.

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My Xmas Card Delivered to the Kingdom Hall!!

by AK - Jeff in

i used nice quality card-stock.

taped pleasantly to the door to greet the morning door knock crowd.

wonder if they used it for the 'daily text'?.

tan

LOL

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who besides me turned a friend into the elders for something trivial?

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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i told on a girl for liking a worldy boy at school.

me and another brother actually waited down the street from the boys house to see if she went there after school, just to get some proof for the eders.

i cant believe i did that:( did anyone else spy on another witness like i did?

tan

I never told on anyone but was disfellowshipped twice because someone told on me. I remember the first time the girl that told on me said that her parents were making her. She was just as guilty as I was and she told on me.

The second time the girl told on me, I got df and she later left and was df for her own personal mistakes. She couldn't look at me after that.

I'm so glad that I don't have to go through all of that sh** now.

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Watchtower logo on side of kingdom hall

by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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my old kingdom hall has the watchtower logo built into the brick work on the side that faces the road - to me for a hall that is supposed to be dedicated to god, its a bit wrong to have a corporation logo on the side of it.

maybe its there to show they and not the congregation own it???

cs 101.

tan

I've always wondered why they stopped putting windows in the KH's

I heard that it was because the audio equipment was being stolen from halls in the surrounding areas...who knows. So that they can cover up all of the scandals that take place.

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Watchtower logo on side of kingdom hall

by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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friends

my old kingdom hall has the watchtower logo built into the brick work on the side that faces the road - to me for a hall that is supposed to be dedicated to god, its a bit wrong to have a corporation logo on the side of it.

maybe its there to show they and not the congregation own it???

cs 101.

tan

I would ask what is the difference in wearing a cross and wearing a lapel pin or tie tac with the watchtower logo?

I agree. Same difference....or crosses and steeples on a church vs. the watchtower symbol?

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Wow!

by Terry in

hguoht neve otatop yllaer gninettaf i era evol spihc yeht.. the box above contains a whole.. the box on top contains no "meaning" as is.

it must be rearranged to fit our commonly agreed standards.. if we do take the whole of it and rearrange the structure without dropping any of the molecules (word forms) a thought can be communicated.. 1.wholeness, in and of itself, is not useful when communication according to a standard is sought.. 2.in order to pull data out of a whole structure (such as the top box) we must isolate the elements and rearrange them.

if we find a pattern we must further apply standards of logic in order to derrive sense.. 3. the wow!

tan

In to the weed Terry or just drinking?...

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What was your final straw that broke your back in terms of doctrine?

by ukescott in

as ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the first vision story which was quite different from the offical first vision was my beginning way out of mormonism.

what about you ex-jw's?

what, in terms of wt doctrine, made you realize that the wt is a fraud?.

tan

Where do I begin...

Child sexualmolestation & physical abuse as a child. A big reason...

Lies in deceipt within the congregation...covering up, sneaking, gossiping, fake, clickish congregations of people. Went back twice because that was all I knew and they make you believe that its the only life you can have.

Since leaving, I'm relieved, my feeling is that I will live this life to the fullest, if that's it then let it be so. I don't feel like I'm always looking over my back. I feel that God accepts me for who I am, an imperfect human being. That's the best that I can do.

Since I've been on this wonderful site, I realize that I'm not the only one. It's amazing how we all can relate from all over the world -- now that's unity. I feel more loved in this congregation of people then I ever felt within the organization.

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JW's speak about the method used to kill people at armageddon

by jambon1 in

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just how is it all going to happen?

i mean, you dont have to be a friggin rocket scientist to work out the logistics of 6 billion+ corpses on the face of the earth!

to be honest, i know its a lot of bullshit but it intrigues/angers me to think back to some of the ludicrous converstaions i overheard regarding the murder of 6 billion+ people in the 'near' future.

tan

I used to think that if people didn't agree with the things we preached that I couldn't wait until Armageddon - they'd see then...and "we" Jehovah's witnesses would be so happy to have proved our point.

How selfish of a thought now that I look back on it. Babies and elderly not to mention people in general would be involved dying. That's not a good thing and I don't want to see people that way.