People who know The Truth(tm), but do not live by it are very very awful people to the Watchtower, because they know the reality of things. It's not about religious apostasy, it's about self-preservation.
apfergus
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preposterous apostasy position (pap)
by Gregor inmain entry: apostasy .
function: noun.
pronunciation: &-'pas-t&-se.
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Is There Anything That You Still Believe In Because of the Witnesses?
by minimus ini still don't believe in hellfire.
i think astrology and palm reading is ridiculous.
that's a couple of things that i know i got from being a jw......what about you??
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apfergus
I believe in the value of personal study... just not from the Watchtower rags, anymore.
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A bit reluctant
by saki2fifty ini'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
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apfergus
You're right, but have you found the truth? Not the truth about the truths of JW's, but after leaving, have you found the truth about God and his requirements itself?
The "truth" is not something that you simply find written in plain black and white text in a book. Answers to questions like that don't come easy. I felt somewhat like you for years--I couldn't get baptized because I didn't think I could live up to God's standard. So my question for you is this: are you really as happy as you claim to be if you torture yourself as you appear to do about your inability to live up to God's requirements? -
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I don't know how I'm going to give them up...
by gwyneth ini bottle fed orphaned kittens from 3 weeks old--they are about 8 weeks old now.
i have become so attached to them!
my neighbor said she was bringing a friend over this afternoon to pick out a kitten to take home...i am having mixed feelings about this.
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apfergus
Aww! They're cute! I used to volunteer at the local animal shelter just so I could be around adoreable animals since I can't have pets in my apartment, but then school caught up with me.
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As An Ex or Fading Witness, Do You Have Any Goals?
by minimus indo you hope to accomplish anything at this point in your life?
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apfergus
Well I still have several years of graduate school ahead of me, but eventually I'd like to be a mad scientist.
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What strange things do your pets like to eat?
by Lady Lee inwhen i was a kid we had a small dog that loved spaghetti with tomato sauce.
he was our witness dog that would sit near the table and wait until after the prayer to start begging for food.. the two cats i had for 12 years loved some really odd things.
i was peeling corn on the cob tonight and missed having them pester me for raw corn niblets.
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apfergus
One of the dogs I had growing up would eat anything. On multiple occasions he tried to eat a bumble bee, and got hurt trying to do so at least twice. While our other dog needed to have his medicine wrapped up in something tasty, I could throw him his pills and he'd catch them out of the air and swallow them.
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War on "false religion"?
by apfergus inthis is something that was never entirely clear to me, but practically no interpretation of it makes any sense.
as i recall, the jws have some interpretation of the revelation accounts, or possibly one of the other cryptic visions, involving beasts and world governments that predicted that the united states government (or maybe it was the un?
) was going to one day wake up to the truth and declare war on false religion (babylon the great).
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apfergus
This is something that was never entirely clear to me, but practically no interpretation of it makes any sense. As I recall, the JWs have some interpretation of the Revelation accounts, or possibly one of the other cryptic visions, involving beasts and world governments that predicted that the United States government (or maybe it was the UN?) was going to one day wake up to The Truth and declare war on false religion (Babylon the Great). I could be entirely wrong, because the only strong memory I have of this was when I got home from school on 9/11/2001 and my mother was convinced that it was going to result in the U.S. declaring war on Islam and starting the irradication of false religion and thus lead to Armagedon.
So I was just wondering if anyone might have any links or clippings from some WT publications that might make their position on this at least slightly more clear? Because like I said, I can't quite tell if this was an actual official doctrine or just the result of a game of religious telephone resulting in some very strange ideas. Of course it might also be my mistake because of the above mentioned experience with my mother while I was still trying to break away from the Organization and was very depressed and otherwise troubled. -
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apfergus
9/11/2001 was within a few months of my leaving the organization and my mother freaked. She was convinced that it was the start of the United States' war against "false religion" and that Armagedon had begun.
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Do u believe much of the JW teachings but not Gods Representative on earth?
by breeze in.
i wonder how many are still drawn to the beliefs but just don't believe the wtbts is jehovah's representative on earth and the only hope for mankind?.
of course we know some are not correct like 607 bc and 1914 and 1975 etc.. breeze
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apfergus
I caught myself regurgitating JW dogma for at least a couple years after I left. None of that, anymore for me. I reject any idea that cannot be shown to be a likely explanation through empirical evidence.
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What the Bleep Do We Know!? Movie
by Sailor Ripley ini was just introduced to a new flick and thought that you might want to check it out.
i'll not give any review as i don't want to sway your interpretation.
i will say that i found it interesting and could be appropriate based on some postings i've read here.
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apfergus
Yeah, all the physics in that movie is completely bogus. One of the interviewees actually got really mad because everything he said was taken out of context and cut up to make it sound like he was saying things he never would have intended to say.
Having said that, the movie is really fun to snark at. Sometimes it gets downright hilarious.