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  RAPIST ELDER PLEADS GUILTY

  by DannyHaszard in

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  2. child-abuse

  "i told the elders that my uncle was doing this to me and they handled it in the way that conformed to our beliefs," ward said.

  "my uncle was an elder in the jehovah witnesses.

  they said i needed another witness to believe my story.

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  See how he likes it when he's thrown in jail and he's playing Catch the Bar of Soap or Hide the Cucumber with Bubba in the next cell
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  The Watchtower After Hours: Phone Sex!?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, it's good to know what the watchtower's priorities are these days.

  they're facing dwindling numbers in the industrialized nations, a growing number of child abuse lawsuits, a pedophile database of over 23,000 members just waiting to be exposed, and what do they have on the front page of their website?

  phone sex!!.

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  Hey everyone, just a small observation. It seemed quite a coincidence that a few days after this thread appeared, the phone sex article disappeared from their website's front page. Is it possible they felt slightly embarrassed as to what strangers would think if they saw that on their website?

  Or perhaps a far more interesting possibility: Maybe someone at Bethel saw this thread and alerted the webmasters. But that would mean people at Bethel are frequent lurkers here, as we have suspected for years. Now just what would their superiors do if they found apostates in Jehovah's Holy Organization? What's that you say? Their superiors are the biggest apostates of all?! Be quiet, they're not supposed to know!

  Can you see me Bethelites? I can see you...

  (This is so Twilight Zone, ha ha ha)

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  The Watchtower After Hours: Education?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good afternoon everyone and welcome to my new series of reports i like to call the watchtower after hours, where we examine many various topics relating to jehovah witnesses, mostly found on their own website: http://www.watchtower.org/.

  i'd like to point out that these articles are all current or previous publications of the watchtower society, and have not been written or changed by me.

  the following commentary is usually quite sarcastic and if any current jehovah witness is reading this they are more than welcome to post their opinion, and i apologize in advance for offending anyone.

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  Hey Mike thanks for the post, and congratulations on the BA, I wish my mom would go back to school but alas, "there are more important things."

  I think you are referring to cognitive dissonance. Many of the elders and Watchtower leaders have a college degree and yet they deny one to the rank and file. And they expect them not to notice this. The Watchtower ignores the bible because they are afraid of it.

  Take for example the following quotes. Even though they are over 50 years apart, I think they still speak volumes about the watchtower:

  *** Watchtower February 1st 1952 pp. 94-95, paragraph 5, Questions from Readers***

  Jehovah is no respecter of persons. Neither are his people. But the world in which we live is.

  ***Watchtower October 15th 2005 pp. 4, paragraph 3 What Is the Best Education?***

  God is not to be blamed for the present conditions, nor has he ceased to be concerned about today’s problems. Jehovah has always been interested in man’s welfare

  I find it hard to believe an organization that makes such statements and still claims to be "God's only channel of communication." You would think such lofty representatives could at least get His message straight. Or perhaps God has changed in the last fifty years and now actually gives a damn about us? Perhaps in the future, the Watchtower will flip a coin and God will change His mind again, and we can all give up hope since He will no longer care about us. Not at all confusing right?

  Thanks to everyone who responded and special thanks to Blondie for helping me find the quotes.

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  How Often Do You Pray?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this might sound silly, but one of the most annoying things i find about my mom being a jw is how often she prays.

  normally, i would never criticize someone for praying to god, but she prays in such a way that makes me angry for some reason.

  let me explain:.

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  Welcome to the board lfcviking an luvbug and thank you for posting! Feel free to tell us about yourselves.
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  The Watchtower After Hours: Education?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good afternoon everyone and welcome to my new series of reports i like to call the watchtower after hours, where we examine many various topics relating to jehovah witnesses, mostly found on their own website: http://www.watchtower.org/.

  i'd like to point out that these articles are all current or previous publications of the watchtower society, and have not been written or changed by me.

  the following commentary is usually quite sarcastic and if any current jehovah witness is reading this they are more than welcome to post their opinion, and i apologize in advance for offending anyone.

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  Good afternoon everyone and welcome to my new series of reports I like to call The Watchtower After Hours, where we examine many various topics relating to Jehovah Witnesses, mostly found on their own website:

  http://www.watchtower.org/

  I'd like to point out that these articles are all current or previous publications of the Watchtower Society, and have not been written or changed by me. The following commentary is usually quite sarcastic and if any current Jehovah Witness is reading this they are more than welcome to post their opinion, and I apologize in advance for offending anyone. Anyone and everyone who is not offended however, is more t han welcome to join the fun

  Now that I'm done covering my ass, lets get down to business. Tonight's topic is Education. What's that you say? You can't remember the current Watchtower view of education? Well, I'll try my best, the education stance flip flops faster than Judge Rutherford at an alcoholic's anonymous meeting. Here's the perfect gem of spiritual food I found:

  http://www.watchtower.org/e/20051015/article_01.htm

  HAVE you ever been so overwhelmed by problems that you felt as though you were drowning in a whirlpool? Just imagine how much suffering could result if you made a mistake in coping with one or more of those problems!

  YAWN, get to the point! It's a good thing I have the Watchtower to uncover these deep mysteries of life. Where would I be without their wise council?

  No one is born with the ability to solve all problems successfully, making good decisions every time.

  DUH! You people are really going for the Nobel Prize in the sociological study of human behavior! Yet somehow we're supposed to believe that a ten year old who would rather die than receive a blood transfusion is speaking with his own mind?

  Many, both young and old, extol the importance of an academic education. Some experts even say that they “fully believe that you will never be able to find a [decent] job without a college degree.” Yet, there are a number of human needs that go beyond material achievements. For instance, does higher learning help you to be a good parent, mate, or friend? For that matter, people admired for their intellectual achievements may develop undesirable personalitytraits, fail intheir family life, or even end up committing suicide.

  Take a good hard look at that last line. Where on earth do they get the authority to make such a ludicrous statement? What study do they base this on? Absolutely nothing. For those of us familiar with this subject, we know what's really going on here. The Watchtower hates higher education because college teaches you to think for yourself using critical analysis skills. For a Jehovah Witness, this almost always leads to critical analysis of the Watchtower's history and the truth behind their beliefs. But for a Jehovah Witness to have knowledge is very dangerous to the Watchtower, as it uncovers well over a century of lies and crimes against humanity. So they cloak this fear by teaching witnesses that college is a waste of time and full of nothing but immorality. That's how they come to make such incredibly bias and wildly inaccurate statements like this.

  Some look to religion for guidance, a source of education, but become disappointed because of not receiving practical help to face life’s difficulties. Illustrating this, Emilia* from Mexico says: “It was 15 years ago that I felt that my husband and I simply could not be together any longer. We argued all the time. I couldn’t get him to stop drinking. I frequently had to leave our small children by themselves while I went looking for my husband. I was emotionally worn out. Several times I went to church seeking something that might help me find a solution. Although the Bible was occasionally used, I never heard any counsel that directly dealt with my situation; neither did anyone approach me to tell me what to do. Sitting in church for a while and repeating some prayers did not satisfy me.” Others may become disillusioned when they see how far their own spiritual leaders are from living an exemplary life. As a result, many lose confidence in religion as a source of training or education for a successful life.

  Now who saw this coming? Attack all religion in general with a vague condemnation of no particular church using a person who probably doesn't even exist. I suppose going to the Watchtower meetings and listening to the elders' "advice" on how to overcome your problems by "praying more" is alot better.

  Remind me when in history the number of suicides among college graduates ever exceeded that of Jehovah Witnesses. Or for that matter, when was the success of a family relationship ever ruined by obtaning a college degree?

  And as for immorality, college is what you want it to be. If you skip classes and party all the time with drugs and alcohol, than it will be the shortest vacation of your entire life. But as for a JW who wants to have a job where you say something other than "you want fries with that,?" This is what happens when you let an uninspired organization of men decide your morality for you.

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  2006 THANKSGIVING MENU AT BETHEL

  by Scorpion in

  1. social
  2. humour

  2006 thanksgiving menu at bethel .

  new world diner .

  welcome to new world food and "spirits".

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  "Elderberry" wine anyone?
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  2006 THANKSGIVING MENU AT BETHEL

  by Scorpion in

  1. social
  2. humour

  2006 thanksgiving menu at bethel .

  new world diner .

  welcome to new world food and "spirits".

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  "Rank & File Weenies"
  
  Ha Ha That was the best one!
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  The Watchtower After Hours: Phone Sex!?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, it's good to know what the watchtower's priorities are these days.

  they're facing dwindling numbers in the industrialized nations, a growing number of child abuse lawsuits, a pedophile database of over 23,000 members just waiting to be exposed, and what do they have on the front page of their website?

  phone sex!!.

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  Mary that was hilarious!

  Marty Feldman and Phyllis Diller!! Ha Ha Ha Ha!

  Here's some pictures to spice up your phone conversations!

  

  

  Ha Ha Ha HA!

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  HAVE JWS RUINED YOUR LIFE??????

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im sitting here today thinking:.

  "my daughter should have had open heart surgery years ago and she would have been too young to know anything about it.

  instead, she is about to face it now....the surgeons were relectant to do it when we were jws and she was so young.

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  Hondo: There was a time when I would say I wish I could wave a magic wand to take your pain away. I have tried to help my mom in a similar situation as your wife but to no avail. The sad truth is the Jehovah Witnesses knew us better than we knew ourselves.

  How can I make such an insensitive observation? Because they've been thoroughly trained and indoctrinated into an elaborately complex form of psychological manipulation techniques that they've perfected over 130 years. The reason we failed as family members is because the indoctrination was always one step ahead of us. They know how 90 percent of the people will react when they hear their loved one is becoming a JW, they flip out, and I was no exception. This is perfectly understandable. There is nothing but bad news about the watchtower in the media all over the world, and on some level, the average witness is aware of this. On one hand, it's important to alert the world to the dangers of this cult, but on the other hand it only adds fuel to the fire of the rank and file. It makes them even more fanatic because they have a persecution complex and they see this as confirmation of the watchtower's claims, and the cycle of brainwashing only gets stronger.

  Why am I telling you this since you probably already know it? I want to let you know that what happened to your wife and my mom was not our fault. We did nothing wrong. We stood up for what was right and responded the only way we knew how. We were not trained experts in dealing with cults. Some of us may be now, but I would gladly trade all of my knowledge for just one chance reach my mom, the real person I knew long ago, not the brain-dead, talking mannequin that has taken her place.

  God teaches us (or at least I think he does) to fight for those we care about, to never give up hope when we know the terrible truth about someone else. Bob Dylan one said you have to rage against the dying of the light. But what will we lose in the process? Our families, our minds, or even our lives? After all, we can't prevent what we can't predict. I've since come to believe that the end result is not as important as the struggle itself. If God has a bigger plan for us, it can take a lifetime to see it, especially when it seems he has abandoned us when we needed him the most. Maybe our destiny is to alert the world to the evil of this organization until it becomes so infested with bureaucracy and xenophobia that it destroys itself from with, and that sounds just fine to me.

  So in conclusion, I won't try to take away your pain because you need your pain, we all do. Without it we would be unaware of the true meaning of life, and that is the Watchtower is absolutely meaningless in the grand scheme of things. We however, are not. We are more than just the sum of broken families and mental and physical scars. We have knowledge, and whatever else they may rob from us, they can never, ever take that away.

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  The Watchtower After Hours: Phone Sex!?

  by Anitar in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, it's good to know what the watchtower's priorities are these days.

  they're facing dwindling numbers in the industrialized nations, a growing number of child abuse lawsuits, a pedophile database of over 23,000 members just waiting to be exposed, and what do they have on the front page of their website?

  phone sex!!.

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  Sorry about that Crumpet, and I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

  I just had to take a step back and laugh at how absurd it all is