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  Re: Mad Apostate's form letter

  by Mulan in

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  2. friends

  in regards to the following letter, that mad apostate posted last week: .

  to whom it may concern: .

  your harassing inquiries into our personal affairs are not welcomed, and any further attempts at such will result in legal action against the individual harassers, the --city--, --state-- congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, inc., and all associated watchower legal entities.

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  Very interesting indeed. I like the consise, impersonal manner of the letter. It's sort of using their own poisinous medicine against them
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  Insurance news letter from January 2004 re:hiring JW's

  by schne_belly in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i hope this is ok to post this news article.

  its an insurance/news letter that i purchased online.

  i am thinking of distributing to local hospital human resource departments to inform them of their need to ask questions when hiring people with religious views that may affect their work.

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  This guy is lying right through his teeth:

  "The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, the body that directs church affairs, says there is no policy forcing members to report sinful acts or divulge private information. That choice is up to members, according to Phillip Brumley, general counsel for the Brooklyn, N.Y.-based group.
  
  "They should study the scriptures, and what they do is up to them,'' said Mr. Brumley. If there is a conflict, he said, a member should "think that through and decide what to do.''

  What a typical Watchtower lapdog, using "theocratic warfare" at its best. I wonder if the people reading this article realize that if JW's lie on something as important as a medical confidentality agreement, then certainly they will lie to a reporter.

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  HOW MANY ARE LEAVING?

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see lots of names here that i don't know, and with the wt on a campain to keep its followers from looking at "unaproved sites" .

  i've got to wonder.....what are the stats?

  how many are leaving ?

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  Hi Darth Frosty,

  I think your comments are quite interesting, something I had not thought of before. Can you perhaps elaborate some more? For example, many people at my mom's KH are coming down with "mysterious illnesses," and there is a new trend of listening to the meetings on the phone, claiming they are not up to attending. It seems there is a class of "absentee witnesses" emerging. There are at least half a dozen people doing this every meeting. Just yesterday, a JW girl my age came into the printing shop that I work at, and was in perfect health. Today, my mom comes home from the meeting and says she has had the flu for two days and was ABSENT!

  Can you or anyone else tell me what this means? Also, when the internet is not enough to awaken the most stubborn of dubs like my mom, do you know where there are any support groups in New York?

  Thanks,

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  How many 'real" friends did you ever really have in ther "truth'

  by The Lone Ranger in

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  2. friends

  sure we got to know a lot of people, we knew a lot more people then the average person, but how many real friends did we ever have?

  a friend that we could trust, that we could confine in.

  i can say i had just one, bro x and even then i still had to be careful, bro x is an elder now and he tells me that im the only real friend hes ever had, he cant freely talk to anyone.

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  I was never a witness, but I had some friends who didn't know my mom is a witness. I was their confidant, the "worldy" person they trusted to not tell anyone about the living hell I saw them going through.
  
  Has anybody else had a similar relationship?
  
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  Kingdom News 37 sneek preview

  by Midget-Sasquatch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.

  http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.

  http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4599/kn37p2rn0.jpg.

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  Notice how they apply a picture to a paragraph, implying that all Catholic priests are like this, and that they are somehow are going to spill the beans on everyone else.
  
  This is so ridiclous it makes me laugh. I expected nothing more, but somebody already pointed out that certain organizations they traditionally point the finger to are mysteriously absent. It sounds like they're quietly phasing out the whole UN scarlet beastie thing.
  
  These homophobic hypocrites are only interested in covering their own war-mongering, sexually deviant "governing body." They want to bring up "sexual immorality"? For an organizaton who hates gay people, they sure keep some strange company. I'll give two words:
  
  LEO GREENLEES!!!
  
  Enough said. I'm sure the mention of that man's name will send many on this forum running for their barf bags
  
  Mike, good to hear you again. You always make me think of something I never thought of before. As for any gay people reading this, JW or not, don't listen to the Watchtower, for they are not even worthy of the vomit to which the dog has returned.
  
  Peace everyone,
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  Is the Internet An Answer to the JW Cliche Lament - "Where Else Can We Go?"

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. friends

  in his article at freeminds on when prophecies fail, about the witnesses and cognitive dissonance, randy watters wrote the following, including an insightful quote from barbara harrison grazzutti.

  it may seem incomprehensible how the witnesses could ignore the implications of each disconfirmation.

  outsiders view the witnesses as lacking common sense for not leaving the organization after numerous failures.

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  I just want to take this opportunity to reach out to all the Jehovah Witnesses who are reading this, questioning their religion, and desperate for truth. Don't be ashamed to think for yourself, don't be afraid of using the internet. Stand up for what is right, even if it means losing everyone you love.
  
  Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
  
  We here on JWD may not have the answer, but at least we have the question.
  
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  What is the current light on the "Generation" issue???

  by integ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on the watchtower official web site they still hold to the doctrine that "some of those alive in 1914 will be alive when the end comes" or something to that effect, which flies in the face of the 1995 wt article that speaks of "generation" as being something different.. i brought this up to a witness and she said "no way.

  the society wouldn't say that".

  well...they did, but what really is the current stance on this?

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  Greetings V,
  Yes, the JW's can't even trust their own website for several reasons. If one of the dubs is blind enough to believe the WTS's claims about the internet, then they'll probably never even use a computer, for fear that aposates might "hack" into their website. Also, as the organization is gradually destroyed from within, they will forget that the generation rule was ever invented, discarded, then reinvented again.
  
  Maybe I can put it this way. The WTS is a sort of "honest" organization. Now a dishonest person you can always trust to be dishonest. It's the "honest" organizations you have to look out for.
  
  I am guessing by your name that you are a fan, of sorts, of Guy Fawkes. So if I may ask you a question:
  Do you dare do all that may become a man, who dares more is none?
  
  Best Reguards,
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  The "Fade" - Evaluating A New Phenomenon

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to what extent has the growth of the "fade" been facilitated by internet forums such as this?

  sure there were people who chose to fade in the pre-internet era, simply by withdrawing themselves, gradually involving themselves with non-witnesses to a greater extent, or getting in touch with other ex-witnesses covertly through the convention system/telephone and mailing support network that used to be more important before the advent of the internet.

  so the "fade" is not an invention of the internet era, not en entirely "new phenomenon".

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  The internet has had a big influence that I've seen. It may not change the elderly congregation, but for school students and JWs who have a desk job, and have daily exposure to the internet have a much greater chance of researching the watchtower.
  
  The trick is to show them how to go online for practical use at first. JWs are taught the internet is a dangerous thing to be avoided, when in reality, it's just like any other source of information. The more you look, the more you learn. Show them how to find neutral information they can trust, that won't hurt anyone. Then when they're sure they can think for themselves (quite the oxymoron), they can start using Google, and the rest is history.
  
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  How I got my daughter out of the CULT of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by hopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i were both raised and baptized as jehovah's witnesses.

  my husband was an elder for over 15 years.

  during those years when he was an elder, our eyes began to be opened to what was going on behind the scenes, that their organization was more political than biblical.

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  Hopie, I am amazed. Your daughter was born and raised in the org, married a pedophile, and it only took two years to get her out? My mom joined at age 54 and I've been trying to tell her the truth for FIVE years without success. Can you give me any pointers? I would greatly appreciate it.
  
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  A Fair View of Fred Franz' Translation Abilities

  by IW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.

  a breath of fresh air.

  http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.

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  Has anyone mentioned Westcott and Hort? I thought their work influenced Franz about 60 years beforehand, even though they were denounced by their own colleagues. Can someone please clarify, I'm not quite sure.
  
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