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Some incredible new publisher statistics and Graphs

by jwfacts in

i have been doing some analysis on the declining growth rates of the watchtower society and they are very encouraging for all ex jws.

i will try to link to some of them below, but for the firefox users or anyone wanting to see the source table they can all be seen at http://jwfacts.com/index_files/statistics.htm.

number baptised compared to increases in publishers and number that have stopped publishing.

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What complete nonsense this all is. Not the research, but the very idea. To put it simply, God doesn't need "publishers." Nowhere in the bible does it say to attain your salvation you have to be a member of the WTS and "pioneer" door to door for a certain number of hours a month. Guess what? Each and every person's salvation was determined when Jesus died on the cross for our sins. No amount of works of men you do can change that. No one can give you or take away your salvation.

However, a sharply brainwashed JW will say "the bible says that faith without works is dead." That's true. But notice the operative word is FAITH. It never says that salvation without works is dead. The passage means that if you believe in God and call yourself a Christian, and yet do nothing to help your fellow man, then you are a hypocrite, and your faith is meaningless. It doesn't say you need to buy your salvation by being a JW. Yet this is the basic foundation of the WT teaching!

They do absolutely nothing to help the community. There are no Jehovah Witness soup kitchens, or homeless shelters, or hospitals. In a religion that values honesty above all, it is ironic that true honesty is discouraged. It is better to give the appearance of a good person than to actually be one. And so, no matter how faithful and "honest" the rank and file are, their faith is worthless.

My mom was watchting a witness video yesterday about how youths can deal with the pressure of growing up in the "truth." It featured absurdly photogenic teenagers that looked suspiciously like paid models, from many countries of the world, using obvious token racial profiling. It was a thinly disguised "see how universal the watchtower is" message. Anyway, whatever questions they had, the answers they were taught were from watchtower sources. The outside world was portrayed as violent, perverted, and diseased. There was no mention of getting help from outside sources, and Jesus was never mentioned. So, basically, the idea was if you have a problem with being in the org, go to no one outside the org, and "pray more."

And this is what they call Christian.

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What is the WTS up to?

by headmath in

i was thinking last night that the wts is acting suspicious like.

remenber the letter a few months ago to have emergency supplies ready and contact numbers ect.

then the end of religion tract, then the km on blood.

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Hey everyone, this is probably nothing, but I found it disturbing enough to mention here. I was reading a discussion about natural disasters on a discussion board on the History Channel website. Here is the link:

http://boards.historychannel.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002248&start=15

After reading many posts, I noticed the braindead doubletalk of a Jehovah's Witness. The poster's alias was Victrix, obviously NOT his real name. Scroll halfway down the page of a discussion of Bible prophecy and armageddon. Here is what Victrix said:

"And if you are really are a prophet and need to tell the world, I'm thinking maybe The History Channel message board isn't your best manner of delivery.

To answer this.... The message has not been delievered. It will begin in the middle of October and will reach a large portion of the inhabited earth. Those invovled will be millions and will be distributing hundreds of millions of them.

I will say no more."

I know this is pretty vague and unimportant, but it got me wondering if this is a person of importance in the WTS, and if so, what do they think they're planning? What do you guys think about this, are they planning something? Please write back!

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WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!

by Gill in

what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.

is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.

if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.

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In the real world, you know what we call a grown, adult man who asks questions about the sexual practices of young teenagers in graphic detail, male or female?

SEXUAL HARASSMENT, PEDOFILE!

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Prince pleads with "strippers" to keep their clothers on!

by Atlantis in

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http://www.lse.co.uk/showbiznews.asp?code=au44814n&headline=princes_stripper_plea wednesday, 4th october 2006, 13:49. life style extra (uk) - prince pleaded with strippers to keep their clothes on during a recent night out.. .

the 'purple rain' singer, who is a jehovah's witness, is said to have begged the gorgeous girls to cover up while he was partying at top los angeles nightclub xenii.. .

according to reports, prince told the strippers: "it's wrong to dance like that.

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Wow. Prince refuses to sing his songs, I'm crushed. This might be the first time in my entire life that I don't dislike the consequences of someone being a witness

You think next they'll get Mel Gibson to stop making movies and Britney Spears to stop having children and Tom Cruise from doing anything at all?

The watchtower should be proud of their pint-sized mascott. Preaching the good news of the kingdom message in a truly Godly sanctuary.

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WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!

by Gill in

what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.

is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.

if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.

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Compound Complex: Welcome to the board and thank you for your comments! I think as people, there are certain needs we have to fulfill on a primal level. Not to say that we should be slaves to our desires, but just to accept what we desire as natural and not try to change it, as long as there's nothing wrong with it, such as the man you mentioned with his nieces.

My mom mentioned this once or twice, that this is a form of "self abuse." I only asked her one question, since I refused to discuss the subject with her. I asked "what if you have a dream about a romantic encounter with a person that you're attracted to?"

She said "only if I was married to him." I said "that's absurd, you can't control your dreams. Who you're attracted to is not always the person you're married to."

She said, "then stop dreaming."

Did I get this right? Not only does the watchtower want to control the sex lives of their members, they literally want to control their dreams!!

Mike: I think all of this is about control. This is the one thing the watchtower can't spy on you for (unless some elder is especially perverted to peek in your bedroom window). Masterbation is not really the issue here. This issue represents a larger problem to the WTS. Their afraid if the rank and file can regulate their own sex lives like normal people, whether masterbating or not, then they will start to become independent and rebelious in other, more important matters. It probably sounds absurd, but a revolution has got to start somewhere. What do you think?

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Couple's faith tested

by Dogpatch in

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great yarmouth mercury, uk - 19 hours ago.

members of the bradwell congregation - including their only child, a daughter - are now forbidden from speaking to david and brenda gibbons since they were forced to.

they were thrown out by a judicial committee at great yarmouth kingdom hall in july, after writing a letter containing personal criticism to another member of the congregation.. .

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Mike: You're right on the nose. The sad thing is that they find nothing wrong with this. I don't know who I feel more pity for. The witness who honestly believes that shunning is a loving and biblical practice, or the witness who sees the truth and is forced to do it anyway.

Will they ever learn that the real world doesn't work this way?

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Couple's faith tested

by Dogpatch in

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great yarmouth mercury, uk - 19 hours ago.

members of the bradwell congregation - including their only child, a daughter - are now forbidden from speaking to david and brenda gibbons since they were forced to.

they were thrown out by a judicial committee at great yarmouth kingdom hall in july, after writing a letter containing personal criticism to another member of the congregation.. .

Anitar

By their fruits, you will know them. Jesus said if 99 of his sheep were in the pasture, he would go personally to find the one sheep who was lost and bring him back, and instructed his congregation to do the same.

Maybe if the jehovah's witnesses actually read their bible, they would know that.

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WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!

by Gill in

what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.

is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.

if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.

Anitar

Hi Mike, good to see you again!

I just wanted to point out this quote from Gill:

At the same time, self-masturbation is not a form of gross sexual immorality, such as fornication. Hence, if you have a problem with masturbation, you need not conclude that you have committed the unforgivable sin. The key is to resisit the urge and never to give up on your fight!

So tell me exactly what is the "unforgiveable sin?" In the bible, God forgave people for adultery, murder, lying, stealing and worshiping false idols, but he won't forgive you for masterbation? How screwd up is that? Notice how their pattern of speech eliminates God from the equation.The sentence implies that only the watchtower, not God can forgive your "sins" And notice how the article never advises you to go to anybody else except a witness. If it is so wrong, than why not go see a psychologist? Because they know how absurd they will sound if they do! Does anybody else notice this?

Also, please check out this link and observe the following quote: http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/articles/BITE.htm

This is exactly what this article is!

4. Spying on other members is encouraged

a. Pairing up with "buddy" system to monitor and control
b. Reporting deviant thoughts, feelings, and actions to leadership

5. Extensive use of cult generated information and propaganda

a. Newsletters, magazines, journals, audio tapes, videotapes, etc.
b. Misquotations, statements taken out of context from non-cult sources

6. Unethical use of confession

a. Information about "sins" used to abolish identity boundaries
b. Past "sins" used to manipulate and control; no forgiveness or absolution

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How did you feel when you found out Jehovah's Witnesses were a cult?

by The wanderer in

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finding out jehovah's witnesses were a cult on a number of occasions individuals would warn.

me about being one of jehovah's witnesses and.

say that the religion was really a cult.

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No problem, Hondo. I felt the need to reach out and respond because your story was so familiar to me.

The sad truth is that all the time and effort I spent over the past five years to help her and save her from this cult, simply made her the perfect host.

It's times like that, when I realized that I failed my mom in something so important she didn't even know it existed, I wish that I never existed either.

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WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!

by Gill in

what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.

is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.

if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.

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Oh my God, I can't believe I'm even responding to this. Well here I go, I'll try not to make any jokes.

First of all, leave the gay people alone you sick WT perverts, they don't masterbate any more or less than hetersexual people. They pity you and get on with their lives while you spend 130 plus years condeming them. Who's really the pathetic losers?

Second, no child, and I mean NO CHILD will EVER, tell their parents about their sex lives, especially masterbation, case closed.

Having said that, if these example teenagers even exist (I'm guessing not), I'd hate to think what psycho-sexual torture they were submitted too to say such laughable garbage like this.

In regards to the teary eyed elder, how creepy is that? Honestly, what mature rational adult starts to cry when a teenager tells them about masterbating? The sicko was probably crying for joy because he had found another potental victim to abuse.

Maybe if the watchtower spent more time condeming child molestation and apprehending the thousands of guilty predators in their own organization, then maybe they would have a passing familiarity with the term Christian! But no! In the watchtower, horny little boys aren't allowed to be normal or sexual at all, so they grow up to horny old men and rape children, and the cycle continues!

And when was the last time anyone saw a watchtower magazine that condemned child molestation? When have they ever given "advice" on how to prevent the real abomination?!

And as for the watchtower, they just feel guilty because that's all they have. The governing body is just 85 year old virgins/child molesters, so they condem the world for something they do themselves.

After all, the watchtwer is in the business of making money, HAND OVER FIST. (wink,wink)

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