Posts by Robert222

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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!

by life is to short in

on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.

she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.

usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.

Robert222

The problem is the creepy illustration - so who is that man approaching the girl with the doll? Wouldn't it most likely be her father? So who does this little girl tell? Further it says "listen to your parents" they protect you from wrong, oh really?

What if they are the perfect JWs sitting in the KH every week - who does the little girl tell?

It does not make sense to equate the JW info with info children receive at school. If I am abused at home or at school, I would most likely be old enough to know who to tell - a child is conditioned in his/her JW home to keep their mouth shut or be labelled as satanic, rebellious, etc., and in need of strict discipline.

I was raised a JW, I was abused, I had no one to tell until I was finally old enough to be "marked" in the KH as worldly, how could I rebell against such a perfect JW family? Finally, I got the courage to simply walk away from the ABUSE I was getting at home and at the Kingdom Hall who more than loved my elder father, perfect mother and shut-in, afraid of her own shadow angelic sister.

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What Watchtower Got Wrong with Their Child Molestation Policy

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

in the style of stephen lett, i'm trying to come up with an exhaustive, enumerated list (without his crazy eyebrows, goofy facial expressions, and nutty voice).

what watchtower has gotten wrong isn't just their 2 witness rule.

it goes much deeper into other failures of jw dogma that has allowed this injustice and others to flourish in their organization.

Robert222

Thanks Billy for responding to our comments, I am learning a lot - my father and uncle were elders, so I understand a little of the procedures, just can't believe how they brush off certain activities as being nothing, just uncleanness, as if the perpetrator and victim were both adults..but even if the victim were an adult, assault is a crime. And I can never understand how the GB are above the law, so is murder okay too? Is that judicial committee matter? just amazing..

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What Watchtower Got Wrong with Their Child Molestation Policy

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

in the style of stephen lett, i'm trying to come up with an exhaustive, enumerated list (without his crazy eyebrows, goofy facial expressions, and nutty voice).

what watchtower has gotten wrong isn't just their 2 witness rule.

it goes much deeper into other failures of jw dogma that has allowed this injustice and others to flourish in their organization.

Robert222

The Society is claiming that a confession by a guilty person does not mean you call the police or disclose it to anybody. A random ministerial servant says he did something wrong and is sorry. The elders ask for guidance from the society, they say delete him as a MS. the end. There was no court case or criminal activity at the time of the wrongdoing....

Then yrs later the victim brings suit against the perpetrator for the act and the society for concealing the confession.

I think the society will make local elders personally responsible in future cases and abandon them, which will in turn cause elders to rethink their positions.

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"NEW" Disfellowshipping Stance?

by integ in

Robert222

I think its because of the recent lawsuit they LOST and have to pay $21 million to a victim. The KH took no action and no doubt the society is angry the victim got support, when in fact, no one was supposed to talk to this person. The society is trying to get the JWs even more isolated and alone, I hope more people wake up this is a false religion, a corporation, out for your money.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-28-08 WT Study (HONOR)

by blondie in

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showing deep respect.. .

so what judge, male or female, gave god's answer to difficult questions with god's spirit?.

congregation elders and traveling overseers?

Robert222

Just want to say how much I appreciate Blondie and comments made by people like "B the X"...I learn SO MUCH from this thread every week...thank you.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-05-08 WT Study (LOYAL LEAVE)

by blondie in

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quote.

Robert222

Thank you Blondie - this is a good article showing they have no basis for their lofty priesthood in Brooklyn. Wait on Jehovah?? If it isn't clear by now after over 100 yrs of this church, it will never be clear...it is obvious God is not backing this religion or things would be crystal clear.

And I have finally noticed how many things are made up, there is no "paradise earth" in the bible, nor can I really see the two classes of people...did Jesus ever mention two classes? Wasn't Jesus' teaching that everyone goes to heaven and that is the "paradise" he promised? All followers of christ were annointed with a heavenly hope.

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Zimbabwe Branch Is Cutting Back

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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i got this email from my cousin.

i don't know if it is true, but it looks like the society is being run out of africa...... things are really heating up in this wicked system & the end will be here shortly.from a brother in the zimbabwe bethel.

******hi to you all,zimbabwe is going through a very difficult time.

Robert222

wozadummy, excellent point. I am going to remember that when speaking with my JW relatives. Funny how the true religion fails to provide for its membership when hard times hit. They must rely upon satan's world for help.

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Zimbabwe Branch Is Cutting Back

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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friends

i got this email from my cousin.

i don't know if it is true, but it looks like the society is being run out of africa...... things are really heating up in this wicked system & the end will be here shortly.from a brother in the zimbabwe bethel.

******hi to you all,zimbabwe is going through a very difficult time.

Robert222

I wish JWs could see that their so called true religion is just a corporation. If one of their business operations is not functioning, is running out of money, they close it down. They do not throw more money at it, they let it die.

The headquarters in Brooklyn is worth billions in the US. They choose not to funnel money into a business that is failing in Africa (or anywhere else in the world). Its volunteer workers now have to get jobs and fend for themselves. All in the name of the true religion.

It is a BUSINESS, I just wish active JWs could see that! It has nothing to do with christianity or they would send money and provisions to that country instead of abandoning their volunteer workers.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-28-08 WT Study (SUCCESS)

by blondie in

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*** km 3/06 p. 1 par.

(mark 4:26-29) let us now consider three more of jesus' illustrations-the mustard grain, the leaven, and the dragnet.

when the wts says "god's people" do they mean anyone other than jws?.

Robert222

Thank you, Blondie.

And it seems they are trying to justify their futile so-called preaching work. It is accomplishing nothing. And it has been said on these message boards many times, the catholic and protestant religions have increased their membership for the past 100 or more yrs.

I guess the GB is amazed at all the sad people that have hung on to their lies over the past century, even they are shocked people continue to swallow their lies. No offense to people still in this church, but I hope no one gets caught in their fishermen's net and can't get out.

I love telling my family JWs are a CHURCH, it really bothers them. They are not special or the true religion just because they decided on a silly name Kingdom Hall.

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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE WT STUDY 09-07-08 (HOUSE TO HOUSE MINISTR

by Mary in

" (this would harmonize with matt 10:9 that tells them not to take any money with them).

" the interpretation of the acts of the apostles, 1961, pp.120-21.

it became evident, however, that further personal training in the house-to-house ministry was needed.

Robert222

Thank you Mary, excellent review.

It does seem like they are trying to justify their daily, weekly, monthly, mandatory preaching work. Nothing in scriptures supports this.

And with the changing times, all churches seem to adjust to new technology and new ways of reaching people except the JWs. They could care less about you learning about God, but with keeping this cycle going so that the rich, lazy people back at Society headquarters can continue their life of ease amassing great fortunes in real estate.

And what really is their "good news" and what happened to 1914??