Posts by jw

If they have evidence to support the allegations of child abuse, such as dna, sperm, etc..., then I might be willing to jump on their bandwagon.

When a parent or the victim goes to the elders to help them deal with a person who has abused the child, the elders will not immediate tell them to report it to the police. The child will not be taken to the doctor to get the evidence "such as dna, sperm, etc..."

The elders have their own little investigation which entails asking the accused if he did it and if he says no the elders will shrug their shoulders and say there is nothing they can do because it is one man (or woman) against the word of a child. And since there aren't two witnesses to the abuse the eldersjust tell the child and family they can do nothing but do not speak of this to others in the cong or they will be accused of gossiping and could be reproved for causing dissention within the cong.

So here is this poor child who has been abused and has had to tell her story to window washers and button salesmen. Scripture that JWs should not go outside the cong with issues regarding "brothers" will be read. She/he or the family is reminded that one should not take their "brother" to court and now she is told she can't tell anyone. Pity the poor child whose abuser is a parent. They have to go home with them knowing the abuse won't stop.

And after all this whatever evidence is washed away and the actual events have been contaminated by the elders clumsy investigation.

Another suggestion: spousal abuse laws : Read up on them where you reside. Seems you can be arrested on the spot no matter what! We can get a similar child abuse law passed . And thus no one even has a necessity to go to an Elder or Jw congregation to report it.

However, "JW" provides a first hand example how people who profess to be so righteous will go to any lengths to protect an organization, even if victims have to suffer.

I never said not to take legal action when necessary against the organization.

I just don't think you all resorting to bashing the organization is the proper way .

You can criticise the Jw organization till you are blue in the face.

If child abuse is so active in the organization your efforts would serve a better purpose by catching the crimminals in the act.

Keep your enemies close.

A video or pics are worth more than mere words.

Witnesses a must.

Channel your energy more wisely.

To those who would ever consider joining this cult..........."JW" provides an excellent witness.

JW:

The problem is that Because the Organization knowingly harbored Pedophiles, there are currently Pedophiles that are available to Hurt more children, both in the kingdom halls and in the home.

When a JW goes to the door do you think that the Householder is going to be told that the person standing at his door is a possible pedophile?

I think you are right that we in general need to be very wary of who we trust our children with. But in many situations, mothers and fathers Cannot be with their kids 24/7. Many parents have to have both adults working just to make ends meet. Mothers who bring their children to the hall end up having to depend on other adults in the congregation to help them.

If the average person does Not know about the child abuse within the congregation they might potentially attend, or are told that such allegations are False and for Whatever reason they completely believe these people don't you think they deserve to be completely aware of the facts before going?

Do you know if a child molestor is lurking in the store waiting for your child to be apart from you?

Is walmart responsible to inform you if they hire a pedophile?

Do you know if your childs teacher is gay or lesbian waiting for a chance to sexually assault your child?

Is it the schools responsibility to inform you of all the gay and lesbians they hire?

Do you know if your next door neighbor whom you have known 30 + yrs. is waiting for the opportunity to molest and kill your child?

Is it the neighbors responsibility to inform you of pedophiles in your neighborhood?

I am not trying to be insensitive just realistic.

It is the parents primary duty to protect their children!

Doesn't mean they don't have to believe the teachings, it just means that they deserve a fair warning, like everyone else.

Further ....

As a RAPE victim, I can tell you right now, that your demeanor with people who have been victimized does not tell me that you are experienced working with rape victims. Sorry, but while I can see your point in your original questions, the reasoning you are using with people is bothersome because by telling people that You used the 24/7 rule, it demeans parents who are unable and not so lucky to be with their kids 24/7.

I compare their methods to the Salem Witch hunt.

If they have evidence to support the allegations of child abuse, such as dna, sperm, etc..., then I might be willing to jump on their bandwagon.

You mention kid on kid abuse... that needs definiton. Some technically illegal kid on kid sex under 16 is not abuse, but a perfectly normal part of sexual development, albeit one adults don't feel comfortable with.

Kid on kid abuse is real.

If a child has been sexually active with a pedofile that kid who likes it will try it on their friends,

An oriental girl , around 8 yrs. old , one day was offering to give blow jobs for $10.00 in Lakeland , Fl.