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  WTS HATE

  by jw in

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  if you have a need to hate the wts then so be it.. but don't hate all jw's, that is just wrong .. you preach that you have found truth, if that were the case then where is your love for all humans?.

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  jw

  but seem to have abandoned the thread which Auld Soul created for you

  No I have not abandon it. I just don't get online everyday.
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  jw, a thread for you and I...

  by AuldSoul in

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  jw,.

  i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.

  maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?

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  I ran across a topic that asked where in the bible did it ever mention Paradise. So could not relocate it.

  So thought would post answer here

  43 kai <2532> {AND} eipen <2036> (5627) {SAID} autw <846> o <3588> {TO HIM} ihsouV <2424> {JESUS,} amhn <281> {VERILY} legw <3004> (5719) {I SAY} soi <4671> {TO THEE,} shmeron <4594> {TODAY} met <3326> {WITH} emou <1700> {ME} esh <2071> (5704) {THOU SHALT BE} en <1722> tw <3588> {IN} paradeisw <3857> {PARADISE.}

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  jw, a thread for you and I...

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw,.

  i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.

  maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?

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  jw

  What do YOU believe the Governing Body teaches that has NOT been proven in the Bible?

  1. the prophesy of the end of the world. Scriptures state no one will know when the end will come.

  2. the shunning of family and enemies. Scriptures state teach your family the bible and guide them down that narrow path. Keep your enemies close to you.

  3. Stealing is wrong. God allows the stealing of food if it is to be consume for hunger and eaten for that sole purpose.

  4. scriptures in the NWT. Compared to the dead sea scrolls.

  5. If you are a baptised jw and sin after baptism you fall from gods book of life. Scriptures state if you repent and do good you will gain 1 year of your life span year for 2 good deeds. However if you sin and do not do the good deeds you lose 2 years of your life span.

  6. that the 144,000 are chosen . Scriptures reveal some of the 144,000 will fall from gods grace through sin and new ones will replace them from the earth.

  too numerous to list all.
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  Anger over disfellowshipping

  by jambon1 in

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  i have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.

  having been out of the org for a few months i now feel confident enough to expose the things that i knew were wrong.

  d/f was one of the biggest issues i had.

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  jw

  Shunning is so against our nature. Shows how brainwashed most of jw's are.

  REALLY, HAVE YOU READ SOME OF THE SHUNNING ON THESE THREADS?
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  WTS HATE

  by jw in

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  2. beliefs

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  if you have a need to hate the wts then so be it.. but don't hate all jw's, that is just wrong .. you preach that you have found truth, if that were the case then where is your love for all humans?.

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  Also too, you suggest that we lack love for all humans....why do you suggest this? In my view the people on this board have an increased sense of humanity contrasted from that found in the WTS!

  Why do you suggest any different?

  TRY READING SOME OF THE REPLYS TO OTHER TOPICS OTHER THAN MINE> SAME OLE RHETORIC OF HATE WORDS IN REFERENCE TO JW"S.
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  The Point of this Site?

  by Samael in

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  forgive me if i sound rude or this question has been answered elsewhere, as i am a neophyte and discovered your site through google in my religious studies.

  from reading the various posts it seems that this site serves nothing more than an iconoclastic purpose.

  was your experience as jw's so traumatic that now you can but put forth such effort to daemonize the religion?

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  jw

  Forgive me if I sound rude or this question has been answered elsewhere, as I am a neophyte and discovered your site through Google in my religious studies. From reading the various posts it seems that this site serves nothing more than an iconoclastic purpose. Was your experience as JW's so traumatic that now you can but put forth such effort to daemonize the religion? Why not live and let live? Do not get me wrong. I am not trying to promote the JW's. It just seems that the lot of you are acting like petulant children. Correct me, please, if I'm wrong. Is their any valid reason for the existance of this site?

  I soooo agree with you.
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  WTS HATE

  by jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  if you have a need to hate the wts then so be it.. but don't hate all jw's, that is just wrong .. you preach that you have found truth, if that were the case then where is your love for all humans?.

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  jw

  Now, is this saying hate the dead or hate the person?

  This is David speaking to god on how he is feeling and asking God to help him to not feel that way.
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  jw, a thread for you and I...

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw,.

  i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.

  maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?

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  Can you please explain where your beliefs differ from those published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, ?

  Some of my beliefs may be the same if it is in the bible.

  and what Scriptures led to your changed understanding?

  Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) Titus 1:1 | pauloV <3972> {PAUL} douloV <1401> {BONDMAN} qeou <2316> {OF GOD,} apostoloV <652> de <1161> {AND APOSTLE} ihsou <2424> {OF JESUS} cristou <5547> {CHRIST} kata <2596> {ACCORDING TO} pistin <4102> {[THE] FAITH} eklektwn <1588> {ELECT} qeou <2316> {OF GOD'S} kai <2532> {AND} epignwsin <1922> {KNOWLEDGE} alhqeiaV <225> {OF [THE] TRUTH} thV <3588> {WHICH [IS]} kat <2596> {ACCORDING TO} eusebeian <2150> {PIETY;} Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) Titus 1:2 ep <1909> {IN [THE]} elpidi <1680> {HOPE} zwhV <2222> {OF LIFE} aiwniou <166> {ETERNAL,} hn <3739> {WHICH} ephggeilato <1861> (5662) {PROMISED} o <3588> {THE} ayeudhV <893> {WHO CANNOT LIE} qeoV <2316> {GOD} pro <4253> {BEFORE} cronwn <5550> aiwniwn <166> {THE AGES OF TIME,} ----- 20 touto <5124> {THIS} prwton <4412> {FIRST} ginwskonteV <1097> (5723) {KNOWING,} oti <3754> {THAT} pasa <3956> {ANY} profhteia <4394> {PROPHECY} grafhV <1124> {OF SCRIPTURE} idiaV <2398> {OF ITS OWN} epilusewV <1955> {INTERPRETATION} ou <3756> ginetai <1096> (5736) {IS NOT,} 21 ou <3756> gar <1063> {FOR NOT} qelhmati <2307> {BY [THE] WILL} anqrwpou <444> {OF MAN} hnecqh <5342> (5681) {WAS BROUGHT} pote <4218> {AT ANY TIME} profhteia <4394> {PROPHECY,} all <235> {BUT} upo <5259> {BY [THE]} pneumatoV <4151> {SPIRIT} agiou <40> {HOLY} feromenoi <5342> (5746) {BEING BORNE,} elalhsan <2980> (5656) {SPOKE} oi <3588> {THE} agioi <40> {HOLY} qeou <2316> {OF GOD} anqrwpoi <444> {MEN.}
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  WTS HATE

  by jw in

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  2. beliefs

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  if you have a need to hate the wts then so be it.. but don't hate all jw's, that is just wrong .. you preach that you have found truth, if that were the case then where is your love for all humans?.

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  Where do you see that we hate of all dubs?

  Where have I seen that you don't hate all ( dubs)!
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  WTS HATE

  by jw in

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  2. beliefs

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  if you have a need to hate the wts then so be it.. but don't hate all jw's, that is just wrong .. you preach that you have found truth, if that were the case then where is your love for all humans?.

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  jw

  w92 7/15 p. 12 Christ Hated Lawlessness—Do You? ***

  God wrote hate the deed not the person!