Topics Started by under_believer

4
DC quote: "most people in Christendom"
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
"most people in christendom know that jesus died, but they don't connect the dots... that if we die, the resurrection hope is based on the ransom.".

well done, captain strawman.

anyone who accepts that has never had a conversation with even a moderately informed mainstream christian.
13
DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
the more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.

.

good times over here in day 2. .
10
Emotionally manipulative claptrap
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
just watched the first drama of the convention.

man what a load of simplistic, lurid, manipulative garbage.

off to barf now.
141
"Theocratic Warfare" and the Annual Report
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
one of the things i certainly noticed as a jw, and even during the time i was in bethel, was the complexities of reporting "truth.".

beginning with an observation on a personal level, i consider myself an honest person.

but something happened along the way, beginning when i pioneered.
9
Upset my mom. :(
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
last weekend, my parents had the kids and my wife and i had a whole weekend just to ourselves.

it was great; we did nothing the entire time except relax and enjoy the silence.. last night we went to pick up the kids.

my mom made dinner, and we ate and visited, and i sadly got into it with my mom and ended up really upsetting her.
6
Is higher education about worldly riches?
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
haven't posted on here in years, but this topic really gets my goat and i just had the "priviledge" of going to a special assembly day where the bethel speaker, john williams, strongly held forth against higher education.

in particular, he stressed how higher education is all about greed and getting rich, and how knowledge puffs up, and that people who go to college are arrogant and selfish.. this is kind of a bad thing because this guy is a really strong, accomplished speaker.

several times i found myself captivated by his delivery in spite of myself.. in response to the idea that somehow education is about getting rich, i would like everyone to take a look at these numbers from the us department of labor: http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm.
5
Here's a vile little poem to darken your inbox
by under_believer in
1. jw
2. friends
my forever true-believing, born-again-jw mother just sent this to my daughter.

i love how this is saying "jehovah please murder 6 billion humans so i can be happy.

" remember, folks: things are worse than they ever have been in the entire span of recorded human history, and you can't possibly hope to endure.
40
Do You Support Freedom Of Religion?
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
i think most religions have their good and bad points about them.

some religions (most) teach if you're a "bad" person or a sinner who doesn't become "born again", that you're going to burn in hellfire forever and ever!

some religions teach intolerance toward "infidels" or "apostates".
61
For Active JW Men: Ideas on Awakening Your JW Spouse (Long post)
by Open mind in
1. jw
2. friends
disclaimer: your mileage may vary.

if you are a married, "active, in good standing" (tm), jw male who has recently discovered that the .

watchtower is not what it claims to be, this thread is for you.
25
boozing as a jw
by Adrianoblue in
1. jw
2. friends
i got babtized at the age of 23. i was not a so called born in guy.

i started studying the bible at 20, and before that i never heard of the jw-religion.

so everything was pretty new for me.. to make a long story short: a month or so after baptizm, i felt probably lonley one evenig and got drunk right out of my brains.