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What's The Dumbest JW Belief?

by minimus in

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i have to think believing in the blood doctrine has to be the dumbest, especially because accepting the watchtower view can kill you.

It's so hard to pick just one, so I won't--here are my top two choices:
1) God wants Christians to go door-to-door in business suits offering free home bible studies and literature to people.
2) There are two classes of Christians: 144,000 anointed ones who go to heaven, and a great crowd of other sheep who will inherit a paradise Earth.

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What's the deal here?

by Jerohobobonadad in

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hello all, i hope this post finds you well.. i was wondering - the same hardcore dozen or so posters seem to be the only ones who reply to and start topics.

looking at the member directory, there are loads of members, but most do a handful of posts then disappear.

is there just a crew of regulars here?

under_believer

I've only been contributing for 5 months. I'm still going to meetings for various reasons and I post here to help preserve my sanity.

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just a note to say hello and good-bye

by junctions-wife in

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i am very proud of what this site has given him in the past few years.

self pride and help for how he was feelling.

but this will be my last topic and last post.

under_believer

Weren't you his soon to be ex-wife like, two years ago? Anyways, good luck.

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What's the deal here?

by Jerohobobonadad in

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hello all, i hope this post finds you well.. i was wondering - the same hardcore dozen or so posters seem to be the only ones who reply to and start topics.

looking at the member directory, there are loads of members, but most do a handful of posts then disappear.

is there just a crew of regulars here?

under_believer

People come and go for all kinds of reasons. Some leave because they learned what they needed to know about the Society, then left. Others were here as part of their recovery process, and have outgrown the place.

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Issuing a Challenge to Atheists and Unbelievers

by The wanderer in

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questions for the atheists and unbelievers understandably, individuals who have left the organization did so for.

personal and more than likely good reasons.

and after reading the .

under_believer

That website is crap. There is no well-documented, provable case of paranormal activity that has ever occurred, anywhere, ever.

Prove me wrong. Don't link to a joke of a website. Show me the peer-reviewed scientific study about it.

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Wow

by pgwvp in

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i had no idea there was such a strong support line for ex jehovah's witnesses.

i was raised from birth as a jw, son of the presiding overseer in my congregation.

i was groomed for "great works" according to the elders, and started giving my own talks at the age of 8. my father died when i was 9, and i think that if he hadn't i would still be a witness today.

under_believer

Welcome, pgwvp. There are some regular posters here who are gay, hopefully they will chime in with their experiences. Also, see these threads:
Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)
My story - still stuck 'in'
There are many others.

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Report of bin Laden's death...

by Funchback in

i don't know if it's true or not.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14963302/.

french paper says bin laden died in pakistansaudi arabia is convinced al-qaida leader died of typhoid, paper saysupdated: 48 minutes agoparis - a french regional newspaper quoted a french secret service report on saturday as saying that saudi arabia is convinced that al-qaida leader osama bin laden died of typhoid in pakistan last month.. l'est republicain printed what it said was a copy of the report dated sept. 21 and said it was shown to president jacques chirac, prime minister dominique de villepin and france's interior and defense ministers on the same day.

according to a usually reliable source, the saudi services are now convinced that osama bin laden is dead, the document said.. the information gathered by the saudis indicates that the head of al-qaida was a victim while he was in pakistan on aug. 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs.. the report, which was stamped with a confidential defense label and the initials of the french secret service, said saudi arabia first heard the information on sept. 4 and that it was waiting for more details before making an official announcement.. officials contacted by reuters in chirac's and villepin's offices had no immediate comment.. a senior official in pakistan's interior ministry said: "we have no information about osama's death.".

under_believer

He's been getting ready to croak for years anyways. If he dies there will be 10 more to take his place.

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Recent Jehovah's Witness Murders, Cause and Effect

by Atlantis in

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(please delete if already posted).

http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21240863.shtml recent jehovah witness murders, cause and effect.

by christian peper.

under_believer

I hope the reputation I've established prevents anyone from taking this the wrong way, but that column is poorly written, poorly researched, poorly cited, and full of logical fallacy.

I'd like a reference on his figures, for starters: he says "the Watchtower has proportionally four times as many child molestations as the Catholic Church." Where did he get that number? What ARE the numbers for that matter? Is that just among clergy, or among all attendees?

"A fundamental difference between cults and Christianity rests on who holds the power. The errors Christian churches have made over the years in this area are due not to flawed doctrine but to imperfect individuals." I'm sorry but that sounds exactly like what the Watchtower always told us when we were believers. We don't believe it of the Society and we shouldn't automatically believe it here either.

"While it is certainly true that there are killers in every religion; the number of murders in the Jehovah Witness Watchtower far exceeds the proportion found in other faiths. There have been many families slaughtered by a long time cult member." Again, where did this figure come from?

"A suit of this kind would really be no different in principal from the suits the tobacco companies have been facing." That is just a stupid thing to say. The precedent, the case law, the prosecution and defense strategies, everything would be completely different. Any prosecutor would be very hard pressed to prove a cause-and-effect relationship between the "steady diet of death and destruction", if any such thing even exists, and various Witness murders.

I can't disagree with his conclusion ("warn your neighbors") but if that's the general quality of op-ed pieces on that site, it's pathetic.

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IT'S OFFICIAL! MEETINGS WILL LAST FOREVER!! Shoot me now!

by Gill in

yes, it's official!

in the new system jehovah's witnesses will still have to attend the terrible meetings for all eternity!!!!!!.

the watchtower, november 1st, page 31, para 16:.

under_believer

LOL... current meetings are sacred?

Is there anybody here (current or former JW) who feels a sacred feeling when they go to meetings? Or who feels that what is going on there is somehow worship?

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Do you think Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President of the USA?

by free2beme in

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i have a mix of friends from democrat to republican.

i am a registered independent myself.

i have heard it said, and watched in the news the obvious moves by the democrats, to put this woman in place to run for the office of president.

under_believer

We probably would, Zagor, but it's illegal. Presidents in the US can only serve two four-year terms, and then they're done. It would take a constitutional amendment to change that. And if you think we'd get a constitutional amendment rescinding presidential term limits through this or any other congress (but especially this congress), I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

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