Posts by freetosee

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Annual Meeting Notes

by NikL in

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this is an e mail making the rounds of the faithfull.

supposedly notes from the annual society meetiing.

in case anyone is interested.. ****************.

Does the bible talk about UFO's?

by JH in

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some say that there are verses in the bible that points to the fact that ufo's visited the earth?.

have you ever heard about this?.

Members of the Ashtar Command will employ organic fifth dimensional bodies in the ascension process. These are described in the Keys of Enoch as Merkabah. The Merkabah can take a multiplicity of forms. Sometimes they appear as a halo - an aura or envelope of light -associated with a master.
Sometimes they occur as a column or pyramid of light. Often they aredescribed as the spiritual body or the light body. The Merkabah is the body employed by a being in the fifth quantum reality in the same way that a physical body is employed by a being in the physical Universe, but at the same time, it coordinates the overself with the human body. It is the embodiment of the higher self of each human being, in the fifth dimension or fifth quantum reality. The Merkabah is also an interdimensional craft that gives the ascended being unlimited freedom throughout the Universe.
For this reason, in the Keys of Enoch, it is called the 'vehicle ofvehicles'. The Merkabah vehicle is especially important for travel between the various dimensions of light because it can project itself from one life system or galaxy to the life system or galaxy of another universe by travelling in and out of physical space and time. It can do this because it has the ability to go faster than the speed of our common light.
A Merkabah vehicle was the chariot of fire which carried away Elijah. A Merkabah vehicle was seen by Isaiah and witnessed by Ezekiel as 'wheels within wheels'. It was a Merkabah, hidden by a lenticular cloud, that carried Jesus Christ to heaven on his Ascension and it is a fleet of Merkabah vehicles that will lift humanity out of physical space and time in the three waves of ascension. The 'ships' of the Ashtar Command are not space-ships as we would imagine them to be. Terms such as 'ship' and 'command' are metaphors chosen for 20th Century communications just as 'chariots of fire' and 'winged angels' were used in bygone ages. Much as your physical body would appear as an enormous biosatellite to a microbe so, as a fifth dimensional body, a Merkabah would appear to you as a biosatellite extending for miles in every direction and just as our bodies provide conducive environments for microorganisms, so the Merkabah can contain an internal atmospheres modified to suit its occupants, along with entire ecosystems and oceans, lakes and mountains and simulated night and day. They incorporate a sophisticated, living technology, far in advance of anything that even modern man can comprehend and they are not harsh or metallic but are organic, lush and verdant. The Merkabah manifest in the physical Universe, in order to evacuate and accommodate individuals and plant and animal species during the collapse of a planetary ecosystem. Millions of Merkabah vehicles are poised to descend and materialise in physical space and time, to evacuate the Earth at the time of the third wave of ascension. Physical evacuation will be offered to those wishing to avoid destruction, as the Earth enters the final phase of her transition into the ascended state. Before this physical evacuation, those who are prepared to ascend will be beamed into the Merkabah by a teleportation process, described in the Keys of Enoch as transvirulence and in Science of the --ds as transubstantiation. Each individual will vanish out of physical space and time as they step into the opening of light at the end of a teleportation beam. On entering the beam they will be teleported into the 'heavenly' fifth dimension. Occurring in any one of three waves, the second aspect of the ascension will be the transmutation of the physical body into a fifth imensional, ascended body. It is this fifth dimensional, light or diamond body that is ever youthful and subject to neither death nor disease - and each person, who achieves this state, will also come into possession of a Merkabah vehicle, to accommodate them in the fifth dimension.

144,000

The Ashtar Command have predicted that those who ascend in the first wave will be given the opportunity to return to the Earth in the ascended state, to awaken the rest of humanity to the ascension opportunity. The Keys of Enoch support this prediction by speaking of the sudden appearance of 144,000 Ascended Masters on the Earth, who will transform the world and push back the clouds of darkness and despair. The appearance of 144,000 masters is also predicted in the Native American prophecies. In April 1983, the Medicine Teacher, Harley Swiftdeer declared that, "144,000 Sun Dance enlightened teachers will totally awaken in their dream mindbodies. They will begin to meet in their own feathered serpent or winged serpent wheels(Merkabah) and become a major force of light to help the rest of humanity to dance their dream awake." This would also provide an explanation for the 144,000, spoken of in the Book of Revelation.Chapter 7, of Revelations, refers to an uncountable number from everynation clad in what John perceived to be white robes. This could have been his perception of the light bodies adorning the multitude, who follow in the wake of the 144,000, to rise in the second and third waves of ascension. John also said that these were the ones who had been cleansed by the time of great distress, a seven year period of great tribulation. This would correspond to the natural disasters that have been predicted as necessary in order for the Earth to cleanse herself of industrial civilisation and pollution prior to her own ascension.

http://galactic.to/kjole/nordic/ascension.html#merkabah

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Does the bible talk about UFO's?

by JH in

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friends

some say that there are verses in the bible that points to the fact that ufo's visited the earth?.

have you ever heard about this?.

freetosee

Ezekiel's Vision
"Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel upon the earth beside the living creatures one for each of the four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction, their appearance was like the gleaming of a chrysolite, and the four had the same likeness being as it were a wheel within a wheel. The four wheels had rims and they had spokes, and their rims were full of eyes round about. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them and when the living creatures went, the wheels went with them, for the living creature was in the wheel."

Ezekiel, chapter 1, Versus 15 thru 21. Revised Standard Version

http://galactic.to/kjole/nordic/cosmic.html fts

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evolution or creation? lets talk...

by Sam87 in

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ok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?

(or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .

hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .

freetosee

OntTheWayOut: why do we have a brain capable of 3 million years of infomation when we live for ony a mere 80 odd years?
Urban myth, sorry. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm

Wow, I always thought that is one strong argument for creation and against evolution. Thanks for the link jgnat. Now I need to think about your "faith thing" approch.

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Photo Shop Fun...

by Justice-One in

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i just put this into the new tract.... the end of false religion is near!.

jehovahs witnesses admit they are a cult!.

and a member of the united nations!.

freetosee

LOL

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two birds with one stone, without getting stoned. possible?

by TheKings in

i really need some help from the experts.

the situation i'm living in now is that i'm currently saving money to move out.

my family are jw's, but actually only my mom is baptised.

freetosee

Kings,

You’re in a difficult situation and are just learning the dark secrets of the wts. There is so much they didn’t tell us. It must be an emotional rollercoaster!

I think you’re right you should say SOMETHING, but the timing and wording is very important, because you don’t want the "wall" to go up.

I was living at home when I realized many things. I kept most to myself and asked questions which directed some of my family to critical realities within the org.

With all the stress you are having you need to straighten your life and care for your health. (I don’t want to sound preaching.)

It is very late for me now and I need to go to bed. I will visit your thread tomorrow.

One last thought, you are very lucky that you are young. Soon all this stress will be of the past and will have made you a stronger person.

All the best,

freetosee

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I have a question...

by brunhilda40 in

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i really need some help and clariety on a situation i am involved in with a friend who is jw.

i am not jw, i am a female lesbian.

i have made a friend threw work who is jw.

freetosee

Brunhilda,

Yes, as a JW you are not to have "worldly people" (non-jws) as friends. Only if you are considered an interested person who studies their teaching with them and are making progress in becoming one of JW, will you be considered as appropriate association. Especially you being homosexual presents a threat to them.

JW’s go preaching publicly from house to house, but as you can see it is a closed secretive society. There are many wonderful people among them and I am sure your friend is one of them.

You are also right about the male headship to which women have to be submissive. Although, I do worry about your friend telling you that her husband is against her having any friends, even among the JW’s. This is unusual, also her looking to you (homosexual non-jw) as a friend and confiding in you. This tells me that anyone having a close friendship with her is bound to find out something that should be kept a secret.

Personally I think if she really is your friend and a good person you should fight for her. Or at least keep contact via email for example. As mentioned, it is not going to be easy.

May I ask you about your observations? How did her husband treat you? Was she different without him? How would you describe the adopted children? How was their relationship with their father?

I hope you don’t mind me asking. It is just that him not allowing her to have JW friends, yet having adoptive children, is alarming.

freetosee

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evolution or creation? lets talk...

by Sam87 in

jw
friends

ok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?

(or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .

hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .

freetosee

Pre-flood brains were 3 times larger...

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Book study funnies - blood

by Zico in

the book study tonight was all about abstaining from blood.

the usual nonsense which we've all heard before, but i thought i'd share some amusing comments from the completely misinformed and delusional brothers and sisters there tonight.

i wish jwfacts, td or any of the other board blood experts could have been there tonight to hear this, now that would have made a good study!

freetosee

Very funny, but sadly true. THX Zico

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OUTLAW and the carload of JW Ladys

by OUTLAW in

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this is a story from when i was away from the board for awhile..... my business partner took everything..there i was in the middle of nowhere,and my internet had just been cut off.

the very next day,2 jw ladys show up on my door step(jehovah does provide!)..lol!

!..one look at these two and i knew they were dubs.

freetosee

Very good! I hope they find the 1975 literatur... cuz the wt-index is not gonna take them there!