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  Why would God speak in symbols if he really wanted us to understand?

  by rebel8 in

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  if i was a deity and wanted people to know "the truth", i would just say it in plain language instead of veiling everything in symbolism, innuendo, and vague hints.

  what does that method of communication accomplish?.

  if i remember correctly, the borg answer to that is this method of communicating tricks the bad people but the good people can figure it out just fine.

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  freetosee

  Hi Startingover,

  this is the link http://www.jcnot4me.com/Items/theology/god_not_the_author/Nt_Autho.htm.

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  Bible Contradictions?

  by Aequitus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).

  i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.

  this was not the case and i left after two hours.

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  freetosee

  Hi

  Aequitus ,

  That linke is good. If you ever encounter jw’s again or go to another meeting it will be interesting to see them deal with your questions. They strongly believe that the bible is not man’s opinion, but all scripture is inspired and preserved by god. So it can not contradict itself. In fact, the circular reasoning is that the bible tells them so and that is why it must be so (2 Timothy 3:16, 17; 1 Corinthians 14:33).

  And yes, jws invite people to a public discourse and a following bible discussion, but now you have seen the reality of this. It is watchtower (wt) propaganda speech followed by a question-and-answer coverage of wt material, no (critical) questions allowed or possible.

  If you speak to a regular jw who can’t answer to the contradictions, he will try arrange for an elder to "teach". However if the elder assesses you as not being sheep-like, all loving interest in you will be dropped.

  I’d love to hear of any future meetings you have with jws. Maybe you can help some out of the wt cult.

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  Can Angels............?

  by uwishufish in

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  2. friends

  fly faster than the wts private jet?

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  do they even have a private jet?.

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  freetosee

  Not private jets, but...

  

  
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  Why would God speak in symbols if he really wanted us to understand?

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if i was a deity and wanted people to know "the truth", i would just say it in plain language instead of veiling everything in symbolism, innuendo, and vague hints.

  what does that method of communication accomplish?.

  if i remember correctly, the borg answer to that is this method of communicating tricks the bad people but the good people can figure it out just fine.

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  If the "Kool-Aid" came out...

  by Justice-One in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering the other day how many would drink if the kool-aid came out at a future meeting?

  you know, they made an announcement that the faithfull and discreet slave had been told that we should all kill ourselves because jehovah did not see the need for us to endure through armageden.

  i wonder....30 percent?

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  freetosee

  THX serendipity

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  Jesus Coming 7 Different Ways....Is this new light?

  by watson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is going around the "friend's" email circuit.

  is this new light from the governing body?

  dear family,.

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  Regarding the upcoming tract campaign announcing false religion's destruction he (Gerrit Lösch) said that they expect it to really divide people. For some it will open their eyes and for others they will reject it.

  Regarding the upcoming tract campaign announcing false religion's destruction I say that we can expect it to really divide people. For some it will open their eyes and for others they will reject it (the wts).
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  Jesus Coming 7 Different Ways....Is this new light?

  by watson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is going around the "friend's" email circuit.

  is this new light from the governing body?

  dear family,.

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  Has Brother Losch been known in the past for speculating and giving his own "unofficial" opinions in his talks?
  

  --VM44

  In a reply to a letter (6. April 2000) from Wolfgang Bambach ("anointed") directed to the governing body regarding the FDS being represented by the gb, Gerrit Lösch writes (10 April 2000), that he would like to answer this letter personally and not "in the name of the governing body", since they have presently unusually much to do.

  In the post script G. Lösch writes that W. B. may share the thoughts of his reply with others, but not to make copies of his letter.

  http://www.gimpelfang.de/treuezeugen/index.php?page=../infoseiten006/lk.htm (Sorry I could not find any English translation of the 4 page letter, I’ll try to find one.)

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  If the "Kool-Aid" came out...

  by Justice-One in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering the other day how many would drink if the kool-aid came out at a future meeting?

  you know, they made an announcement that the faithfull and discreet slave had been told that we should all kill ourselves because jehovah did not see the need for us to endure through armageden.

  i wonder....30 percent?

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  freetosee

  I often read references made to Kool Aid regarding the wts. I know it is a low alcoholic sweet drink, but may I ask what is the further implication? I don’t get it. Thank you.
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  My letter to the "Glorious Ones."...

  by Justice-One in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought you guys might get a hoot out of this letter that i just mailed..... dear elders (or should i call you glorious ones?).

  you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can never fool all the people all the time.

  and you certainly do not have me fooled anymore.

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  Apart from the F#%k you (hope I spelt this right the wrong way), I think your letter is great and was imagining how they’ll handle it. I can see them having lengthy elders meetings going through all the files trying to find any recorded JC comments which may help identify the persecuting undercover wolf. I’m sure they’ll forward this to the society for further instructions. You may even get the privilege of your CO spending a "pioneer week" with your congregation giving special talks lol. The society may want to know if other congregations have received similar letters.

  The wts receives exposing mail every day, but since your letter is directly to the elders and most unusual I doubt it can just be ignored and your concluding greetings might spark some action.

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  Dishonorable mention

  by Norm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today to my surprise i found my name mentioned on a cesnur site.

  it is authored by some john b. brown.

  anyone know who this guy is?.

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  freetosee