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  For Current JW's- Watchtower Society Examined!

  by Vinny in

  1. watchtower
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  " {wt jun 15 1957 370} .

  " {ga feb 4 1931 293-4} .

  " {wt jun 15 1957 370} .

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  icocer

  I wish I could challange you. I was never a JW and thanks to posts such as these never be. Basicly bookmarking for future reference.
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  Jerusalem was not Destroyed in 607 B.C.E. New Web Site

  by jdough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a new web site devoted to the false claim by jehovah's witnesses that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 b.c.e.

  please feel free to link to the site.

  http://www.geocities.com/jerusalem607/

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  icocer

  Thanks, Ill look it over after work. Who made this site by the way?
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  WOW!! What a FIND!! Watchtower Dates- the History of Their Movement

  by Lady Liberty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear friends,.

  came across this great chart of watchtower dates and references!!

  my what a list it is!

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  icocer

  bookmarked. Thanks.
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  Jesus Christ, Michael the Archangel does it really matter?

  by unbaptized in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus christ, michael the archangel does it really matter?.

  because at the end of the day he's still our lord and saviour.

  he died on a stake for our sins.

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  icocer

  Auldsoul,

  I am not quite understanding what you are getting at with the book of Enoch not being cannonized. Can you further explain?
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  Jesus Christ, Michael the Archangel does it really matter?

  by unbaptized in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus christ, michael the archangel does it really matter?.

  because at the end of the day he's still our lord and saviour.

  he died on a stake for our sins.

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  icocer

  interesting. Very.
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  Rutherford and 1914 "coming"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen the 1929 book where rutherford stated that christ's parousia took place in 1874. .

  in the course of my research, i have seen people claiming that during the 1920s, rutherford dated the "coming" of christ at 1914. .

  i do not want to repeat hearsay, and would like to hear from people who have the original documents or verifiable photocopies.

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  icocer

  Same research I have been doing, cool. This link was given to me which contained some scans. http://www.reexamine.org/quotes/1874.htm

  Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom, the astute reader will note at the top of page 47 that: "Barbour succeeded in convincing Russell that Christ's invisible presence had begun in 1874." And again, in the last paragraph on page 133 that: ". . . Russell also came to be persuaded that Christ's invisible presence had begun in 1874." This last statement contains a footnote reference which reads:
  *. . . A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book The Truth Shall Make you Free, and it was then refined the following year in the book The Kingdom Is at Hand, as well as in later publications.
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  Which site has the best info on 1874 return of Christ by Russell.

  by icocer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i debated my jw coworker for hours today.

  i threw the 1874 teaching into the mix and he said they thaught that for a very, very, very, short time.

  he might be willing to see old watchtower scans that show the amount of years that the society (or should i say russell and rutherford) actually taught the doctrine.

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  Thanks everyone great finds I need to be prepared. Today I gave him the pages in his "Proclaimers book" that state that Russell had been talked into believing the return of Christ in 1874 and that the chronology was changed in 1943. The author of "Captives of a Concept" said that once he reads this that the "bell is rung".
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  Which site has the best info on 1874 return of Christ by Russell.

  by icocer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i debated my jw coworker for hours today.

  i threw the 1874 teaching into the mix and he said they thaught that for a very, very, very, short time.

  he might be willing to see old watchtower scans that show the amount of years that the society (or should i say russell and rutherford) actually taught the doctrine.

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  icocer

  I debated my JW coworker for hours today. I threw the 1874 teaching into the mix and he said they thaught that for a very, very, very, short time. He might be willing to see old watchtower scans that show the amount of years that the society (or should I say Russell and Rutherford) actually taught the doctrine. Also I would like to become very aquainted with this early history. Any suggestions?
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  Just bought a NIV- whose name should I call on, Jesus or Jehovah?

  by becca1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm reading romans currently and as a life long witness and nwt reader i've always read romans 10:13 as "anyone calling on the name of jehovah will be saved'.

  niv says "jesus" and the context seems to suppoet this quite clearly.

  could anyone please comment on this??

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  icocer

  bookmarking for further review. Very cool
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  Get A Load Of This Anti Watchtower Site!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!

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  http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.

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  icocer

  Bookmarking this link for future reference.