Posts by Fleshybirdfodder

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Do you recall your "point of no return"?

by JH in

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was there something special that happened, an event or maybe a deception, that triggered your point of no return as a jw.. .

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Fleshybirdfodder

So many.... But it was an article warning about the dangers of hobbies that made a little voice in my head say, "you might belong to a cult if..."

FBF

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hello in there ;-p. wow wow wow.... i never knew such a place existed.... unfortunatly i don't have a lot of time to type right now & believe me i'd need days, perhaps even weeks & i'd probably still feel like i wasn't done.... in short... my name is jodie, i'm from australia, i'm about to turn 32 & i am a jehovah's witness outkast... i wasn't kicked out, i left of my own accord when my parents divorced & i was about 14... my father, my younger brother & me - the 3 black sheep !!

my father was disfellowshipped, he was an elder who also happened to have bi polar... the day ( or technically night ) my father was disfellowshipped was the saddest time of my life - it was more like a death or a funeral, something tragic... when my parents divorced i went to live with dad, i was always closer to my father plus when he left he had nothing... he lived on the river bank in the middle of winter for 6 weeks in a tent ( while his good christian jehovah's witness father & sister slept warm in their beds in the same town... ) dad bought a little caravan & he & i lived in it, eventually he bought some land & built a house & my younger brother joined us.... anyway to cut it all short... i've suffered badly from depression - so badly it's almost killed me & my brother also... the crux of our depression is our mother, our sister's, our grandfather, our aunt's & all of our relatives are jehovah's witnesses - most of them live in the same town as us altho they may as well live on the other side of the world.... you know, sitting here thinking about it all - it all makes perfect sense... how can families be torn apart like this, how do they not realise it is wrong & sad & wicked ??.

i've spent more than half my life trying to have any sort of relationship with the rest of my family.... anyway i have to get going.... hasta la vista .

Fleshybirdfodder

Hi Jodie,

Glad to hear that you have found a "new" family. Just goes to show the difference between the conditional "love" of the Witnesses and the real caring shown by those scary, nasty "worldlings" we were so often warned about. Looking forward to reading more of your posts!

FBF

9

Take the Bible POOP quiz.....

by kid-A in

i scored 80% !

and little toe said we atheists dont know anything about theology !!!!

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0505/biblepoopquiz.html.

Fleshybirdfodder

I couldn't finish the test because I had to poop. Guess what I used for toilet paper?

FBF

27

Will the change to the Watchtower be followed by a change to the meetings?

by yaddayadda in

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i expect that a significant change to the meetings is on the horizon, most probably in the form of a shift of the bookstudy from a weeknight to a condensed saturday morning version.

some congregations already hold bookstudy groups on saturday mornings.

a universal change to this for the whole organisation make senses as it would help resolve a number of growing problems for the society, specifically, meeting attendance is clearly diminishing at the rate of knots in the western world, many elders are burning out and resigning because they cannot cope with all the pressure heaped up on them that so many meetings in no small measure contributes towards, and magazine 'sales' are apparently down and such a change would work in very well with the upcoming new change to the watchtower magazine in january 2008. .

Fleshybirdfodder

We had a Saturday morning bookstudy and the attendance was abysmal. It meant absolutely no sleeping in at all, since we had our Sunday meetings in the morning as well. Even the "stronger" ones in our group had issues making it on time because most of them worked nights cleaning, and if we were to get a reasonable amount of service time in we had to start at 8:30 am. It pushed others away because it was "expected" that everyone was going out after the study, and our conductor was so gung ho he made those who weren't raise their hand so he could get a count of those who were. I used to like it because it gave me a free weeknight, I'd basically sleep through it (wasn't hard, we were doing the Isaiah book at the time) and didn't care who looked at me high and mightly for not going out in compulsary service. I think it pushed some of the "weaker ones" away because they didn't like the pressure of being expected to go out. I can't see any major GB initiated universal change to the meeting system. We did Saturday morning groups because we either had a shortage of homes to host the BS on weekinights and had to use the B school in the hall, or a shortage of brothers able to take the group on weeknights. My point being that attendance to the BS (consistantly the worst attended meeting in our circuit) definitely did not go up when switched to Saturday mornings.

FBF

10

Sometimes i miss talking to God

by dobbie in

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although i now no longer truly believe in god ( i now neither believe or disbelieve anything about anything, its easier that way), there have been some very low times lately where i have started to actually pray and quickly stopped myself.

although i didn't ever pray v often i did used to find that if i had something troubling me or was upset then praying used to leave me feeling so much calmer afterwards about things.

i realise i actually miss being able to do that as now i have no way of feeling better over sad things or whatever may be troubling me.

Fleshybirdfodder

I agree with Narkissos,

Although I am an agnostic now, I find it comforting just to voice my anxiety and ask for strength to overcome it. If you feel calmer after praying does it really matter if it is beardo God up on his throne, or simply the result of quiet contemplation?

FBF

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Oh NO!!! It's raining on Prince!!

by MsMcDucket in

i'm scared he's going to get electrocuted or break a leg or something!

Fleshybirdfodder

I can't believe he sang "All Along the Watchtower"!!!!

FBF

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Has anyone found another religion??

by Cass in

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g'day everyone, i am just curious to k. now if anyone has found another religion, which they believe has gods backing.

if you have i would love to hear about it .

thanks for looking at this post, cassie.

Fleshybirdfodder

Welcome!

I've not seen any good come from religion, so I'm learning to believe in myself.

FBF

106

POLL: Would You Ever Consider Going Back To The Organization?

by minimus in

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yes, no or maybe....and why?

Fleshybirdfodder

It is akin to asking me if I would go back to the feeling I had after I ate that potato salad that was left in the sun for too long.

FBF

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Why Matthew 24 can NEVER be fulfilled.....

by kid-A in

lets see.

by watchtower theology, millions if not billions of dead people will be resurrected in jehoobie's funland...... assuming 6 million dubs survive the fiery wrath of lord jehoobie, they will represent a tiny minority in the new world order!.

according to the borg, all of these newly risen dead will require a "witness", meaning, the kingdom ministry will by necessity be in full swing,.

Fleshybirdfodder

How much sense does it make to kill billions at Armageddon, just to resurrect billions who were "fortunate" enough to die before Armageddon?

My niece was killed crossing the street two days before her fourteenth birthday. My sister, like the rest of our family was raised in the "spoof". However, she rejected it very early on. She is one of the most incredible, rational, loving people I have ever met. My mother shunned my sister till this tragedy happened. She had the audacity to instantly point out the above quoted ridiculous notion. She used it as emotional terrorism against my sister ("your daughter is already in the new system... don't you want to see her again?") and my sister, even at the most emotionally vulnerable place anyone could ever be, had the strength to tell my mom to go fly a kite. Witnesses work on neither logic nor compassion. If I was resurrected according to their nonsensical dogma, I'd be anticipating the three thousandth six hundredth and fifty first day when I could actually speak my mind.

FBF

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What Naughty Things Did You Know Of That Went On In Your Hall?

by minimus in

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as an elder, i knew a lot of things that happened in the congregation, including "secret sins".

what i also knew was that some persons were quite good at being sneaky----especially the teens.

years after my daughter stopped hanging around certain friends and she was in her 20's, she told me little juicy tidbits of what some of her best friends regularly got away with.

Fleshybirdfodder

A friend of mine used to pull his balls out of his pants and rest them on the shelf below the literature counter while he was doing sound to make us laugh while we were doing mics. He would even comment like nothing was going on.

FBF