I honestly did not realize until AFTER I saw information on forbidden websites that this was so. How in the world I could have missed this is beyond me-it must be because the information I was reading in the W.T. magazines was so hard to wrap my mind around anyway. I remember when the change came out about the generations. I knew I could not understand the "NEW LIGHT" so just supposed I should not worry about it, just accept it. But when I found out that Jesus was not really my mediator, I really balked at that. Yes, I want to be humble, but he insisted that he was the way, the truth, and the life and NO ONE could come to the father except through him. There is one mediator between God and man, etc. I will not pray through the governing body.
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Jesus: the mediator of the anointed (only)?
by evergreen indid anyone realise that this was the case when they became a witness or just realise through time that this is the societies teaching on it?
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each year i get annoyed at the memorial when the speaker giving the talk always refers to this point and then says how the other sheep (the great crowd) "can benefit from this arrangement".
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My Wife's reaction to the Revelation Book news
by under_believer inso, i told my wife about the july km news that we'd be studying the revelation book again.
"good," she said.
"good?
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Guilty- for years I went through the motions, afraid to actually say, "Hey, you know I don't understand alot of the stuff you are saying. Where do you get this stuff about the two witnesses, etc. found in the Revelation book?" So I mainly tried to keep awake during the study and hoped that no one would realize that I really had little clue. I thought everyone else around me were deep thinkers who absorbed all the deep spiritual information and I was deficient. My husband was a book study overseer for many years. I just tried to sit and not embarass him.
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Should you try and call an old dub friend? What if you did?
by gumby inok, sunnygal inspired this one.. today i wondered what would happen if i called an old dub friend.
he's an elder.
i met him in jr. high as he was in my metalshop class and i mentioned i was a witness.
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Some people have written in and said that just maybe if you talked to your friend you could help them "see the light" about the W.T. I was thinking that up until a short time ago I would NEVER have looked at an "Apostate" web site or listened to anything from a former witness. But I will have to admit, that if a person I'd known well called me and told me about, say, the U.N. scandal-I would really have been tempted to look up the info on that web site. So, you never know.........
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Just introducing myself
by restrangled indear all,.
just wanted to say hello and tell you how much i have appreciated all your postings as a "lurker"...sorry.. short history, grew up in the 70's as a 3rd generation jw, elders daughter, dad left in the 80's, df'd at 16 and the decision was reversed after 90 days.
left when i was 18. i am now 48 and have suddenly been shunned by my mother even though i have supported her emotionally all these years never critisizing the wt, listening patiently to witnessing stories etc.
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This post is for Ms.McDucket-how can your 19 year old daughters shun you? Don't they live at home?
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Newbies Introduce yourselves!
by Sparkplug inok, i have been in and out of here lately due to schedules.
each time i log in there is a new member on the board.
when i go to see who they are...usually there is nothing and everyone is doing great and jumping right into conversation...but i for one would like to know your stories...anyone care to share or just introduce themselves to everyone?.
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I am a newbie but cannot tell my story yet. I am still "in" and not disfellowshipped, but probably will be in the near future. I am saying this even though I have not done anything wrong. That is part of my story. Never fear, when it happens, there will be an announcement of my story.
I'd like to add that I enjoy reading the comments here. I feel like I have had some association with human beings at last, because for a long while I've had no one to talk to. When I stopped going to meetings, very, very few people have spoken to me.
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I did it. I finally graduated from College at 40 years of age.
by booker-t inwell posters i did it.
i finally got my associate in science degree from college the other day.
i was so excited.
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Congratulations. I am also a student. I, however, am in my fifties. Yes, it is intimidating to be surrounded by teens. I wanted to go to school for many years, but my ever so faithful elder husband reminded me that the Society frowns on higher education and that I would be setting a poor example in the congregation. Since then, of course, I know of many elders and publishers in the oil business here in Texas that have a degree and make butloads of money. They quietly sent their children to college, also, evidently while giving talks supporting the Society's viewpoints. Keep up the good work and be proud of yourself for your accomplishments!!!
I remember a young girl in a former congregation who was offered scholarships for college because she was such a good student when graduating high school in the mid 80's. She did not accept the scholarships and was even featured on one of the Circuit Assemblies giving her story. Recently, I heard her husband left her with two children. I wonder how she was able to support them with only a high school education and how she feels now that the Society has received "NEW LIGHT" that college is not so evil after all but it came too late for her.
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Barbara Anderson
by Justitia Themis ini can not seem to find the thread from several weeks ago that contains the link to the article written by ms. anderson outlining her life and times at bethel.
the article starts with a picture of her and her husband.. if someone finds it, will you post it here please?.
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Barbara- Since I know that you are reading the comments in the forum today, I would like to introduce myself. Well, not really, as I am still anonymous. But I feel that I know you due to reading all the information available about you and your husband. I wrote a message to you about your court battle. Don't know if you saw it. I do not know how to navigate in this forum yet. I am still a witness. I had no idea about all the controversies going on. I was the ideal Elder's wife-I did not ask my husband about any case, did not listen to gossip, tried to think the best of everyone and tried to please every person. Yes, as this forum describes it, a typical Dub. I would never have looked at any information on the internet, being the obedient to the bone person I was, had it not been for the fact that the Elders in the Hall treated my family very badly. I was shocked and dismayed, and then it occured to me to type in the words Watchtower and Abuse, as I reasoned that if my family had been treated badly, perhaps others had also. Of course the information sent shockwaves through me!!!!! I don't know if you actually live in Tullahoma Tenn. but I have been there before. My brother married a girl from there some 34 years ago. Anyway, for some time now my husband and I have been so depressed because of finding out what's really been going on. I would like to ask, how do you think the G.B. justifies not relating the facts about the United Nations to the rank and file? Did they give any excuses when you were at Bethel?
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JULY 15TH WT STUDY ARTICLE QUOTES....
by Mary inwarning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
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This question is for Joe Grundy-you write that you have never been a Witness. I am wondering-what led you to this site and joining in this forum? How did you become familiar with all the controversy surrounding Witnesses? It was gut-wrenchingly upsetting for me to find out some of the things I now know.
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JULY 15TH WT STUDY ARTICLE QUOTES....
by Mary inwarning: ad nauseam quotes:.
keep free from murmurings - august 14, 2006 study.
par 16: murmuring focuses our min on ourselves and our troubles and pushes into the background the blessings we enjoy as witnesses of jehovah.
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I remember going to the meetings and assemblies wishing that instead of hearing how we could do more, more, more, and how some were not doing this or that right, we could have uplifting talks telling us how wonderful we were doing, how proud of us the FDS was, and how much they appreciated the daily struggles we had to overcome to remain a faithful witness. I always felt that I was viewed as never measuring up, even though my husband was an elder and we always studied every article, cleaned when it was our turn, denied ourselves advancement in our jobs through education, and never spoke ill of others. I do not know if others are becoming dissillutioned by finding things out over the internet like I have or not. Do you really think more people are viewing the information about the Society?
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Banned church member sues Jehovah's Witnesses
by izobcenec ina normandy resident who was disfellowshipped from jehovah's witnesses is suing the organization for $7 million on grounds the alleged action against her was wrong.
barbara joanna anderson filed the lawsuit thursday in coffee county circuit court.. she is seeking $2 million in compensatory damages, plus $5 million in punitive damages.. the defendants are listed as:.
* watchtower bible and tract society of new york inc.. * watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania inc.. * watchtower enterprises llc.. * watchtower foundation inc.. * watchtower associates ltd.. * kingdom support services inc.. * christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. * religious order of jehovah's witnesses.. * the watchtower group inc.. * manchester congregation of jehovah's witnesses elders.. * lawrence a. seely, gary hobson, dale dormanen, robert e. matthews, david semonian, j.r. brown, and john does no.
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I am new to this forum. Very new. I am currently one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have read many things recently, Barbara, that are very disturbing to me. I have cried many times. I do not care who the first President of the Watchtower was. If Russell was the Secretary to begin with, that only means that perhaps he really was dedicated along with his father and was aligned with the organization earlier than once thought. What is wrong with announcing to the congregations,"Guess what? Russell wasn't the first President of the Watchtower Society?" I do not care if the end of this system will be in one year or two hundred years. If the Watchtower Society said they were wrong about the date, I could accept their aplogy for writing in the Awake magazine for years that "Those who were at an age of understanding in 1914 would not pass off the scene before the end of this system." I am sure that even if the Society announced to the congregations that they were affiliated with the U.N. for many years but said they were wrong I could live with it. What I do care about are people. Jesus cared about people so much that he was willing to die for them. He considered children precious. How is it loving and kind to tell a child that they must not speak about the abuse they received from an adult or they will be disfellowshipped? What I care about is truth and being told the truth. That is why I became a Witness to begin with. I do not want the truth hidden from me as though I am too stupid to understand it. When I became a Witness many years ago, Apostate was a word that was seldom heard. Now, it is becoming all too familiar. It seems our situation is becoming like the people during the Salem Witch Trials. If someone you knew was accused of being a witch, you could not come to their aid by saying that you did not think they were one, for fear of being accused yourself!. This meant you must stand by and see innocent people put to death, or risk your own life. You, Barbara, have chosen people. You have cared about others the way Jesus would have us do. I grieve for you that it has cost you the relationship with your son and grandchildren. I care, too. I am glad that I am finding out the real truth, now. Thank you.