what a day.
today is my birthday.
my adopted senior told me they were best friends.
I went to the first facility and had a great time with the Seniors. I just love them. Then went to the new facility.
You are a wonderful person to love and show attention to those who are forgotton by many-even their families. I hope you feel good about yourself and your accomplishments. I hope the woman's family appreciates what you are doing. If they are witnesses they may not.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20070125.html.
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interesting overturn of a case brought by the dubs.
Thanks for making us aware of this. Hope many who know about JWs or have relatives who are, will share this with them.
its a long story that starts with panic attacks going door to door and ended with a 2 month vacation in the cornwall on.
psych floor for two months.
i was stalked by the elders for 3 years after i stopped going to meetings.
Don't have to be df'd to get those panic attacks. After they df'd our daughter, by accusing her of fornication, and calling her a liar, etc, etc, my husband and I were so upset he wouldn't go out in the front to mow the yard unless I was with him, we pulled the shades, would not answer the phone-just let the answering machine get it- and had a fear of any sounds outside the door of our house. I am sure we could have used a psych ward or rubber room for awhile.
It does get better. It takes awhile, though. After two years, we go in the front yard and could not care less if anyone sees us.
Hope you realize it's not you. The WTS indoctrination takes some time to get over.
i invited my mom two months ago to my wedding.
she never responded and then today i get this.
what do you think of my reply?
Your letter makes me cry, too. I have a daughter. I love her dearly. I do not like to think of the anguish you and your mother are going through. I would also advise you to drop the "for the first time in my life" thing. It makes it seem like nothing ever went right when you were with your parents. This will make mom defensive. The rest of your letter does not put anyone on the defense.
You might also say that you dreamed about her sharing your shopping trip for the dress. In fact, you could ask her opinion on some aspect of the wedding. I would also close the letter with the scripture "love never fails."
Why does the WTS always say that it is a voluntary organization and that one can leave anytime? They fail to include the fine print showing the disastrous consequences of leaving.
just had a call from a jw undercover.... says the march awake is teaching the question on sex again "what young people ask" telling them about hooking up!!!!
i am begining to think that maybe those up in the writing department must get horny while writng all this stuff -the lad that called says he gets horny reading it.
pity!!!!
I'm glad I didn't have a drink in my mouth when I read that--the computer screen would have had to be cleaned!!!
i see serious problems with the leadership of the witnesses on two important levels: locally, in smaller bodies of elders with marginally qualified men carrying heavier workloads, and internationally in a lackluster and unimaginative governing body.
there are no nathan knorrs, or fred or ray franz's in this pathetic group!
first, the local elders: .
At the KHall I last attended, about thirteen elders, my husband included, but he was deleted with a bunch of lies when my teen daughter was df'd (another story). The P.O. was cold and unfeeling, one was very caring, one somewhat caring but old, the rest were pompous B#$%@^$#. One,new to the Cong., when asked what outlines he had so that he could give public talks, replied that he "usually only gave talks at the Circuit or District level."
I do wonder just what eventually will happen at the WTS headquarters. When the old men that are "annointed" begin dropping and there are only a few young "annointed replacements" and the "Nethinim"-- won't that look at least a bit suspicious to many? Or will many suddenly find that they are "replacement annointed" and vie for a chance at the GB? Should be interesting to see the powere struggle.
hello all...i've been searching for some sort of comfort in my situation.
i found a story written by "iamfreenow" aka marion.
i found some comfort to know that i am not alone in my challenging of my faith.
Welcome Mals
I was wondering if your family knew that you were repentant and was still df'd and what they thought about it?
Why do people think that someone is being "helped" by throwing them away when they are begging for help? Had you been counseled before?
I am just wondering if the answers may help you determine how to proceed.
At any rate, glad you are now able to overcome your problem with drinking--it shows the inner strength you have. You have much to contribute to society. Hope you can asses your life and perhaps do something to feel worthwhile-maybe go to college if you haven't, or find a way to help others.
i wasn't born in the truth.
my parents started studying when i was five.
we started living all the principals completely when i was nine.
Welcome
Isn't it refreshing to find that there are others like you? I have tried to explain to people who were never associated with the WTS what it was like. They look at you with an expression that clearly shows that they cannot fathom what you are talking about. They have no conception of what a control group like this can do to a person's life.
Hope you learn much here and realize your own self-worth. Many have gone on to rise above their background of WTS thinking and gone back to college to truly live a life of service to others.
i'll miss some of you.
i curse others.
it's been an interesting 3 years.
On the contrary, IronGland! As Shutterbug brought to my attention when I was about to leave, it isn't about us as individuals it's about helping OTHERS! Whilst you may feel you've exhausted your input into the forum that just isn't true. You have much to offer and the new ones here will be mightily glad of your experience.On the contrary, IronGland! As Shutterbug brought to my attention when I was about to leave, it isn't about us as individuals it's about helping OTHERS! Whilst you may feel you've exhausted your input into the forum that just isn't true. You have much to offer and the new ones here will be mightily glad of your experience.
Thanks for your comment, Dansk. I know when I first peeped at this website, what a shock it was to find out what was really going on in the WTS behind the scenes!!! Had it not been for all of the posters here, I don't know how I would be today. I found those that felt the same way that I do about lies and distortions of truth, and realized my family was not alone in being mistreated by those who claimed to love us!!
I am not yet familiar with all of your posts, IronGland, but I will go back and look at many of them so that I will be.
No matter what your reasons for leaving, thanks for being on this board.
New ones do need help to feel that they have worth as individuals after leaving the collective.
remember how many families (maybe even yours) struggled with money issues while being a jdub?
i remember lots of families under stress due to being jdubs.
you are always told by the tower not to work overtime if it conflicts with the meetings and not to go for higher education, for the same reason.
When we first joined dubdum, my hubbie was in management training in a major department store. Of course, he soon realized that to be a good microphone carrying, elder aspiring dub he could not work retail hours. He quit and began working a string of low paying service jobs. He eventually became self employed, and became the dutiful elder in the congo.
Fast forward thirty years-after working manual labor in all types of weather, his health would not permit him to continue. What to do now? No real education, no skills other than service or manual labor, age against him.
I began working to compensate, but same scenario. No education, only low paying jobs available.
Now, we are both working, I am going to college but am over fifty and will probably die trying to get a degree slowly while working full time. We have spent our savings trying to keep up while hubbie did get training for a not very well paying job.
Recovered? We'll never recover. We struggle daily and will never be able to retire but will have to work until we keel over. Thanks, WTS.
