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  Me

  by Sighco in

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  2. experiences

  just thought i should share a bit of my story with you all, i'm on this board everyday and can't stop reading.

  i was raised as a witness by my mother and grandmother, dad and gramps weren't witnesses.

  i was baptized at 15, i believed it was the truth but was still pushed into baptism by my mom, she thought it reflected negativly on her as a mother that i wasn't dipped yet.

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  Quandry

  Welcome.

  Ah, yes. We could never do enough, and whatever we did, someone else did it with no legs or after fording rivers with crocodiles!
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  New Light

  by faundy in

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  2. friends

  hello, just wondering if anyone could concisely tell me what the 'new light' is?

  something about armageddon being further away than thought?

  i just don't want to trawl through loads to get to the answer!

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  Quandry

  God does not change. His word has been the same since day one, our understanding of it does since we are flawed.

  Only, don't dare tell anyone you think the Governing Body is flawed....those are Apostate words.....
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  This Video clip was funny about the WTS flip flops on the people of Sodom.

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any new "new light" on the people of sodom not coming back?

  what other wacky religion would spend so much time comtemplating, thinking upon and flip flopping on this shit?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0sdh239aii.

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  Quandry

  That video is hilarious! Thanks for sharing.

  They actually changed the edition of the Live Forever Book to reflect this difference. Only problem was, I didn't know and had the "old light" edition. Imagine my surprise when, on a Bible study, the student's "new light"copy said the exact opposite of mine about the resurrection of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah!
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  Am I the only one who thought the GB was 100% correct when they were a JW?

  by NiceDream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few months ago i began researching my doubts on the internet about the wtbts and i came across a bunch of crazy facts.

  this helped me realize this isn't "the truth.".

  when i was growing up, i believed the society was always right, and we needed to obey what was in the publications.

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  Quandry

  Oh, yes, at one time I was happy in my delusion that the GB was totally inspired by God. I believed every word. I remember feeling that I was like one of the Israelites...a chosen people.

  I didn't understand everything, however, but had been conditioned to thoink that the fault was mine. I thought I was not a "spiritual person" as I ought to be. I admired many who had the WT magazine underlined all over the place. Especially the ones who used different colors for different thoughts! Wow!

  Of course, when they changed the generation in 1995, I thought, "Wait a minute. For years on the inside cover of the Awake it said they were building my confidence that the generation that was alive in 1914 would not end until the big A." I asked my husband for an explanation, which he couldn't completely give, even though he was the Watchtower Study conductor. When I realized I still couldn't understand it, and pressed him further, I actually became a bit afraid of questioning....not wanting to seem apostate.

  I think at that time, a little bit of doubt set in.
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  Help! I need advideQ Elders want to speak to me..

  by cia171 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you read in the title, the elders from my congregation want to have a chat with me...which could be about to things...either why havent i gotten baptized ( since ive been in this since i was born...ive been tortured all my life lol) or either because i have a worldly boyfriend.. i dont know what to say in either case!

  i cant say i dont want to get baptized because i have to appear to like the religion til i graduate college cuz my mom pays for it and is pract blackmailing me with it, and i cant say tht i will cause i hate it!

  and about my boyfriend they will either give me advice about why not to be with him or convert him...so i dont know what to say to to pacify them and not let it get to me...so any advice?

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  Quandry

  Welcome, cia171.

  So glad to hear that you are in college. Isn't knowledge freeing and exciting?

  Take a deep breath. Even though you are a bit older than the WTS likes to see baptised, you still have time to "make up your mind." Yes, they will try to put pressure on you. I like the answer from the teen mentioned earlier. Don't allow them to make your choices for you.

  Pell grants may be time-consuming and hard to get. For other financial assistance the school will look at the ability to pay from your family. You are wise to "lay low" until the education is completed. At this time in your life, your education is the most important thing you can get...it will be yours and no one can take it from you. It will open doors for you all your life, and give you a sense of satisfaction.

  I will give you motherly advise that others may disagree with. You do not have to have a sexual relationship to have a boyfriend, even if he pressures you to. You can have the utmost respect for yourself, and value yourself as a person, not an object for sex. If he demands that you have sex, then that gives you a clue.......

  The elders are going to want to know if you are still an "approved associate" for the congregation. You have some choices to make. I for one don't like to see anyone having to "live a lie."

  I do not know if your relationship with your boyfriend is sexual, but they will want to know. You can put them off for a while, but the discussion is probably inevitable. They will even pull you into "the back room" during a meeting, if they feel they can't meet with you any other time.

  Hoping the best for you now and in the future.
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  The Story of Randall Watters part II - Trouble at Bethel

  by Dogpatch in

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  my story part 2: trouble at bethel.

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  [endif]by my third year at bethel i was really enjoying it and determined to make bethel a life career.

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  Quandry

  Very interesting. I came "in" in 1973, when I was 21 and so trusting.

  I remember the 1975 furor, and later some saying it was all concocted by apostates. I just didn't know enough to run at that point. Unfortunately, it took 30 more years to completely "wake up."

  Looking forward to your next installment!
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  This Week's Article - Young People's Baptism

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the first study article from the april 15, 2010 watchtower, titled "young people - strengthen your desire to serve jehovah.

  " i hit paragraph four and i just had to pause to comment.

  i am pretty darn sure this is a softening of the jehovah's witness stance regarding the appropriate age for baptism.

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  Quandry

  It seems that the candidates have been so young lately, they've run out of eight - twelve year olds. It's a wonder they didn't say six is O.K. in the article. They are so desperate to show an increase-Holy Spirit being on them and all......
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  Here is the Letter I am thinking of sending ,give me your input

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  attention to the elder body of the *******congregation of jehovahs witnesses .

  criminal harassment is defined as "engag(ing) in intentional conduct which the actor [harasser] knows or has reason to know would cause the victim, under the circumstances, to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated; and causes this reaction on the part of the victim.

  609.749, subd.

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  Quandry

  Yes, I second recovering's thought, as I wrote on your other thread. They will interpret this as a request to disassociate, and there will be an announcement.
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  Okay I just got back from the Police department

  by troubled mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the officer was very understanding and helpful .

  he said you would be surprised how many citizens they have come in and ask how to stop the jehovahs from coming to their doors .. .

  i told him my whole story about leaving the jw's after 44 yrs and just wanting peace and freedom .

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  Quandry

  Of course, the elders will probably view this as a disassociation letter and an announcement will be read.......

  I haven't had the elders calling in several years. If they do, I am determined to give a cheery hello and ask, "Are you calling because there's another change in generation you want me to know about?"
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  what did you study?? Do you think it should be longer.....?

  by angel eyes in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  what publication did you study and how long was the study for??.

  when i came in you were only allowed 6months, i didnt even get that lol...but was baptised after 5months.

  it was so fast but i was ready for baptism.

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  Quandry

  I think it's important to have a study with someone you feel you can talk too.

  Too bad more "talking" instead of parroting answers out of a book wasn't required. My family tried to tell me that CT Russell was involved in unlawful activities; "miracle wheat sales," etc. Too bad I didn't "ask the right questions" and do more research on the history of the JW organization. It would have resulted in allowing me to really live for the time period of over thirty years that I was in limbo in the WT organization.

  I wanted to get an education....no....that would be independent thinking....and the end is soooooooo close.

  Now, at 58 years old, I am in my junior year at college. Don't know if I'll ever be able to graduate as I have to work full time and can't take the stress of too many classes. But I do know this....knowledge is freeing. If only I'd striven to gain the information that I know now about the WTS and all the crackpot things they used to believe...."vaccinations are like taking puss into your body," etc.

  So, in retrospect, I don't know that the time period should be longer, but the study material should include the history of the WTS and the changes made over the years. It should include the fact that should you ever feel uncomfortable with an explanation from the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" concerning any teaching, you must not question-even with "someone you feel you can talk to." This person does not exist after baptism.

  You must not do independent research...and heaven forbid you want to get a real education....they are afraid that you will begin to think outside of their narrow box, and discover that many of their teachings are historically incorrect (dinosaurs didn't eat meat, and were here until the flood), or just plain looney (sun baths are good for you, vaccinations bad, no organ transplants, as you aquire the personality of the donor, heart is the literal location of the conscience, God resides in the Pleades star system, "ancient worthies" will be resurrected in 1925 and will live in a mansion in southern Califonia).