Posts by Quandry

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Hello to all ... I've finally decided to sign up

by In Between in

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after alot of time, lurking, fighting this damn inward battle i am dealing with, i've decided to join in the mix.

a little about me (i'll try not to bore you to much) ... i am a fader.

was raised jw, was even a m.s.

Quandry

Howdy from Texas--yes, the feelings of being crushed due to the unkind treatment of those in the Hall is very hard to take. I went through over a year of total depression after deciding not to return to the K. Hall. I am now coming out of it, and partly responsible is this forum. I never dreamed there were people who felt like I do.

I now look back and am ashamed of the smug actions on my part, as I had been trained to look at those who had poor meeting attendance as less than good associates. I think I was just mad that I had to run home from work and run around like an idiot getting ready for the meeting, not even getting to talk to my family except to say, "HURRY UP" and get ready, and they weren't doing it!!!

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Disturbing illustrations

by Fleshybirdfodder in

i've heard this illustration several times in varying formats.

to encapsulate: a man works at a railway bridge and is in charge of switching the tracks so that the train can successfully cross the river.

he sees his son playing on the bridge just as the train is coming.

Quandry

Fleshybirdfodder----first of all, every time I read your name I have to laugh. It is great.

Your question-have any of us heard this illustration used--it was used year before last at the memorial, and the same speaker used it not too long before that in his public talk. I also heard it several times in different places over the years. Boy, do the same illustrations get used all over, or what? You are in Canada and I am in Texas-Houston area. Actually, as one speaker on here posted, we got the same talks over and over again. Especially the one about marriage. I think I could have mouthed the words as the speaker gave that one after hearing it sooooo many times!!!!!!

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I'm going back to the JW's

by Honesty in

if you can acccurately disprove the mathematics in the following i will be at the local kingdom hall first thing in the morning and ask the elders if i may rejoin them in worship.. here is some information i have compiled regarding what the watchtower has printed in regards to the babylonian kings and how the lengths of their reigns can be calculated to arrive at the date of the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar.

if you're like me you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.

as the date for the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar comes up.

Quandry

geevee--more than a slight bit sarcastic. Obviously this site has not been set up to deal with many many people who are merely disgruntled over the year 607 B.C.E. I am sure we could all deal with that. That does not cover the incessant rules, harsh disfellowshippings, U.N. scandal, 1914 debacle, too many little flock still here, 1975, Beth Sarem, etc. Being a "scholar" cannot make these things right, nor explain them away. Yep, a little sarcasm was called for.

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I'm going back to the JW's

by Honesty in

if you can acccurately disprove the mathematics in the following i will be at the local kingdom hall first thing in the morning and ask the elders if i may rejoin them in worship.. here is some information i have compiled regarding what the watchtower has printed in regards to the babylonian kings and how the lengths of their reigns can be calculated to arrive at the date of the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar.

if you're like me you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.

as the date for the destruction of jerusalem by nebuchadnezzar comes up.

Quandry

I really am clueless here. Even if 607 were the correct date, the point is---as has amply been made in the references to the new District Assembly, OBEDIENCE IS REQUIRED. That means no looking at this forbidden site. Scholar, what if you went into the back room and tried to insist to the elders that it is necessary to try to hold discussions with and convince what they consider apostates that the society has the correct dates? Don't you think they'd take just a teeeeeny issue with this activity? Also, there are other dates to consider. How about the 7,000 years for each creative day? Where do you fit the dinosaurs in?

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Is It Possible That The Society REALLY Believes The "End" Will Soon Be Here

by minimus in

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do you think they might really believe that?

Quandry

What property did they buy from Bob Hope in 1974? Where is it? Do they still have it? One of the things that started my spiral to "Out of the W.T. Control" was that my family was visiting friends in California and they said that if we had more time they'd like to show us the property Rutherford bought for the resurrected princes.

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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2

by enlightenedcynic in

thanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.

a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.

meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.

Quandry

I hope you are still reading replies to your post about your situation. I just found it on this site. Please be patient with your wife. Not too long ago I had some of the same issues with my husband. I think women are interested in security and your wife is afraid the family will fall apart if you become less than the eager spiritual leader. Take things slow. If perhaps you see articles in the newspaper or on T.V. against witnesses point those out. Or try pointing to the latest gossip in the hall about elders mistreating publishers. Or just really give your family some well deserved attention by taking them camping or on a trip. Get close as a family so that the only tie that binds is not just meetings and field service. Really have some good discussions that do not center around the Bible of goings on of witnesses. Go to interesting places. Encourage her to go back to school or in some other way improve her self esteem. Hang in there. Your wife has been programmed like we all were at one time.

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My sis calls & says,"Your dead"&"I wish you'd died in a car accident"(long)

by morwen in

ya know... i'm a bit amazed at times at how utterly out of touch with reality jw's can be.

here's a little bit of a background of what's been going on....

i've been having an on going issue with my jw family about my husband & i(and our 4 young children) no longer going to meetings and us having questions/problems with this religion.we are not df'd nor da'd (at this point) but have not been to a meeting in about 7 months and have been inactive for probably 3-4 years now.we haven't lived near my parents for several years so they have been a little "in the dark" so to speak as to us being inactive but we kinda were given a bit of "lee-way" since 5 yrs.

Quandry

Morwen-I like your name.Kinda sounds like a character from The Lord of the Rings. Anyway, as you can see I am a newbie. I was the type of dub who previously would have said something crass like your sister. She is just having a hysterical first reaction. Given time, I hope the family will calm down. Maybe something will happen to them like happened to my family and they will see the elders for what they really are, petty dictators wringing their hands, waiting for a chance to "hear some dirt" on someone, and treat them in the most unloving, harsh way possible. Or, maybe there will be some new announcement that Armageddon is coming soon and when it doesn't, will begin to question. This all may take some time. Thank you for sharing your story. Until I came across this site I had no idea how many people were becoming dissilutioned. It helps to read the experiences of others.

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Shocking Announcement: Society feels Armaggedon coming this year?

by truthseeker in

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a rumor alert indeed, but it could be related to the distribution of kingdom news no.37, "false religions end is near.".

the following is posted from e-watchman's forum.. make of it what you will, but in light of all the rhetoric about "deliverance at hand" and "independent thinking", nothing would surprise me anymore.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1502&st=0 we posted about an announcement it was only local to our cong.

however we have found out that there is going to be an announcement sometime in september and it is supposed to be shocking.

Quandry

I was thinking the "new light" on the nethinim meant that the 144,000 need not be alive when the big A comes. Was I wrong? I could not get all the changes straight.

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may i say hello?!?

by isthisit in

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hello my name is isthisit and i have a confession to make, i'm an active jw and not happy.

i am a lurker here and have to start posting.

i am 22 and have been "born and raised" as well as being 4th generation.

Quandry

Nice to kinda meet you. I was also a lurker but a couple of weeks ago also began posting. Am also still "in." My husband was an elder for many years. Something horrible happened to my family. Haven't been able to talk about it yet. In addition, my husband was conductor of everything, oversaw the starting of a new cong., helped many people, etc. When he got sick, his fellow elders were cold to the extreme. They acted like he was worldly staying home from the meetings. Most did not call or come to see him. He was not able to get to meetings for awhile, even cried because he knew how they felt about him. Both of us are no longer active. I am the one who read the "forbidden" information about the U.N., etc. but told him about it. Evidently there are many of us.......

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Do you ever get overwhelmed trying to sort your thoughts out ...

by troubled mind in

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maybe i need to start a journal or something to help sort my thoughts .

it seems like right now i have to many things to deal with at once and i don't know how to slow down and take one issue at a time .

this past weekend i met a pastor from the church down the street .incredibily nice guy .

Quandry

Yes, indeedy- when I first found out about the abuse scandals, then the U.N., then really thought about the 1914 "NEW LIGHT" and put it together with the 7,000 year creation days, etc. I thought I would lose my mind, and really welcomed some rubber room where someone else could do my thinking for me for awhile. It was as if I realized the emperer had no clothes, when before I was sure that I was the only one not seeing them. For the past many months I have been trying to make sense of things. This site has helped me to know that others are aware and feel the same way about the "GOOD OLE BOYS" at the top. Overwhelming is a good word. Everything is now called into question. I do still feel, however, that Jesus is my mediator, and died for all of us at this site. I know there is life after death--Jesus was ressurected. Where it will be............