Posts by Quandry

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For the kids is it better to stay married and miserable or...?

by brunnhilde in

...get a divorce and at least have a chance at happiness?

my husband and i would never have gotten married if we weren't both in the borg.

now we're both out and we have nothing in common.

Quandry

I am happy to hear that your thoughts are the happiness of your son. I work in an elementary school and have seen so many behavior problems because mom and dad are divorced or separated and the children act out their frustration and anger at school by not following directions and getting their work done or by fighting or hurting other children.

If you are both putting your child first and he feels secure with both of you, and you don't fight in front of him, I feel that you are, yes, sacrificing your happiness to stay together, but isn't that what we do when we have kids? Put our desires on the back burner because we are responsible for the emotional needs of our child?

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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!

by AnnOMaly in

watch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.

"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?

" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.

Quandry

On the way out,

It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.

Okay, here's my speculation after a good night's sleep and meditation.

Since the resurrected ones are communicating the divine truth to the Governing Body,
it's no longer necessary to put anointed in the Governing Body.

Yes-that's what I was trying to say but my post was confusing and yours-well, isn't. If no one is special, then who do these 24 elders communicate with? If the spiritual food is dispensed from the FDS, and they are all annointed, and they receive "divine truths" from dead annointed, doesn't that make them have "special insights?"

If no one is special, then the dead annointed can choose to send their "communication of divine truths" to anyone, can't they?

So if someone jumps up in the middle of the meeting and begins yelling that they are receiving "divine truths from the 24 elders" should they be tackled and hustled outside, or should the PO be calling the governing body with "new light?"

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Is The Watchtower SocietyA Prison Sentence?

by The wanderer in

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friends

is the watchtower societya prison sentence?more often then not individuals who are members of this discussion .

board will talk about freedom from the watchtower society.

some members even have their handles containing the word freedom.. not a literal prison sentencethankfully, i have never seen the inside of any state institution, .

Quandry

Yes, but a strange one.

I was "in" for over thirty years. I was young and could have accomplished so much. When it all came crashing down, and I realized it was not true, I had the rude "awakening" and realized that I am now 55 years old, no college, no friends, no retirement, very few vacations to see any other parts of the world, and no idea what to believe. It's sort of like coming out of a coma.

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JW's and the internet

by *jeremiah* in

growing up as a jw in the 70's and 80's we didn't have the influence of the internet.

i, of course, believed i was in "the truth" and never heard anything (from the outside) that negative about our jw religion.

of course, now and again, we had some angry people at the door, but other than that i can't recall very many outside negative criticisms.

Quandry

Meet Jehovah's Witnesses People at ... been full time pioneering since Janurary. I like meeting other witnesses. ... Picture, jehovah's witnesses, Picture ...

These people just don't seem to get it--they have been told time and time again that the internet is dangerous and that they should not use it to meet others. And she is a pioneer!!! The WTS needs more meeting parts on this again!!!!

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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!

by AnnOMaly in

watch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.

"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?

" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.

Quandry

"They do not belive that their being of the anointed gives them special "insights" beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have."

If they do not have "special insights" then how are they receiving information from the ones of the annointed who are "evidently" giving them information from heaven about the identification of the "great crowd" since they were resurrected beginning in 1935 as the WT announced earlier?

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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!

by AnnOMaly in

watch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.

"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?

" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.

Quandry

I don‘t think the R&F JW really give a toss about Bible understanding, teachings, doctrines, or any other Truth, just go along to the meetings, be a mindless’s JW who attends meetings, that’s what it is all about, nothing more, just a Religious’ Organization that Meets

Yes. I agree. When I was sitting at the meetings, knowing that I could not begin to understand the WT in my lap, usually confused and not knowing what to answer, I smugly contented myself that I was THERE--sitting at the meetings. Ah, I was obedient, thus assured survival of the big A.

It has become like the Catholic repeating the Rosary many times. It is the act. One can be seen attending the meetings. You occupy the chair, therefore you are saved.

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Does Knowing the Truth Make you a Happier person?

by gumby in

many of us who were once jehovah's witnesses had a measure of happiness in our lives.

for me, i had a hope in the future, i had answers as to why we are all here, i believed in a loving god who looked after me and cared about me, i had answers to all of lifes big questions.. when i found out the truth about the witnesses, i was lost in a great big world and now had no answers other than the fact that what i once believed was "the truth" in actuality wasn't the truth.i now had to start all over in my search for truth.

for me, it wasn't long before i found what i thought was the truth since i always believed in the bible.

Quandry

Gumby

For many, not knowing is ok by them. They live life to the fullest and enjoy life in not knowing all these things i've mentioned. I wish I were as they are in not knowing but unfortunatley for me personally, i'm not ok with this. On one hand i'm glad to know the truth about the witnesses but on the other hand i'm left void.

I have thought alot about your topic and discussed it with my husband. He does not post on here, but we are on the same page of misery about the devastating dissilutionment that sets in once one knows that the wizard is controlled by the man behind the curtain, and no amount of yelling by the man to pay no attention to him but to look to the wizard can make you believe again.

We devoted more than thirty years to believing that the big A was right around the corner, didn't take vacations because we would miss service and/or meetings, felt smug in our knowledge that the people around us were doomed, felt the guilt of never measuring up completely, and all other things good dubs do.

I had always thought (and felt kinda bad about it) that people like Mother Theresa were wonderful, caring individuals, even though not JWs. Well, I still do. There are people who care about their fellow man and those are still the ones I admire.

I also think about the knowledge I do have about Jesus. He went where the people were, healing all that came to him, no matter how tired or hungry he was. He did have the power to do good, and used it in this way. He did not complain about the people who came to him, even though they may have walked for miles and smelled bad or had horrible sores on their bodies.

I would really like to know how Jesus wants me to worship God. I wish I did have the answers to the questions the way I once thought I did. I do want to worship in the right way. I can only rely on the knowledge that I love the man who did so much good for others, even as I love Mother Theresa for helping the poorest of the poor. (By the way, I was never Catholic even before JWs) I would love to be in the midst of people who feel for others the way Jesus and MTheresa did. Will this ever happen? I want to hope.

Yes, I feel the void........

Quandry

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Bulletin Board versus Information Board

by mavie in

jw
friends

does anyone know why the bulletin board at the back of most us kingdom halls is called an information board?

i called it a bb once from the platform and was corrected.

i've also heard the same from others.

Quandry

About thirty years ago, in Jacksonville Florida, a speaker came from Bethel with a special program. He was an "expert" in the history of Babylon, and he said, among many other things, that the origin of the term bulletin came from ancient Babylon. The official word from the ruler was as if from the god Baal, or Bel, represented by a statue of a bull. Then he went on to explain that the Catholics got the term, from the papal bull. It was all ancient and pagan. He also explained that the bell in a church tower came from the clanging of gongs to get the attention of Bel in Babylon, hence the name bellfry.

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Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses??? huh?

by cultswatter in

does christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses = watch tower bible & tract society?.

i have noticed more and more boe letters and congregational letters that are written by the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses".

letters from the society are supposed to come from the watch tower bible & tract society.

Quandry

In either case, we'll never get a straight answer from the organization. The WTS is not an honest organization. They're not going to print, in plain language, what the doctrine really means, because any way they do it, they'll either contradict earlier doctrine, contradict current doctrine and/or alienate thier followers.

Yes, yes, now I get it. You can't get it. You can't get a straight answer. That's why I was always so confused after a WT study. I was afraid to raise my hand and answer because it was never clearly spelled out. I always thought I was thick and couldn't understand deep spiritual things.

By the way, if you write to the WTS, you are writing to the service department, and they are the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Just don't count on getting any service.

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"Apostates end up bitter and angry"

by XBEHERE in

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friends

i actually attended the bookstudy on friday, don't ask me why.

anyway the revelation book is being considered and we're at the paragraph where the congregation in ephesus is comended for "not bearing bad men.." apostates.. .

the comments from the ones attending were so baised and ignorant.

Quandry

I recently watched one Witness tell another how he won't need to worry about his retirement, as Paradise is only ten months away. From all appearances, this old guy is hanging on by his fingernails.

Is that ten months from February or March? Either way, in ten months it will be cold again. What about the Bible verse that says pray that your flight is not in the winter?

Where did he get his light? By all means, he needs to be reminded of this statement in ten months.