due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
The Martian writes:
No. Do you know of any Baptists molested? Pentecostals?...I know you know Catholics who were!
Good point, Martian. We've all heard about the Catholics. And who would have thought after all the legal wrangling that went on and the payouts they had to make, that the JWs would be following in their footsteps!!
At least the Pope was man enough to appologize for what was done in the Catholic religion. The WTS never will.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
yup, after 3 days of her 23 day sentence.
she'll be confined to home for the duration of her sentence.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/people/paris-hilton-out-of-jail/2007/06/07/1181089245036.html
She'll be confined to home for the duration of her sentence
Actually, for a person like her, this may be horrible. Not to go out to clubs and be seen? Horrors!
Guess the poor little thing will just have to have many parties at her house.
why is it they co's always drive buicks with nice leather seats?
they just stopped by my place, and i am hiding... i havent been to meetings in years... co must be in town, and the in-laws musta tipped em off where i am living.
(im hiding in the computer room tell they go away!!
We bought a used C.O. car from Circuit Leasing some years back.You can request car color and seat color. We felt that we were helping the WTS by buying it, and that we would be assured that it had not been smoked in and that they would be honest.
They have key cities around the U.S. where you can go to pick up the cars, which in our case was a dealership. They had an office in the dealership that I guess they rented. They are a big business.
i've been doing a major cleaning today, anything that hasn't been used or looked at for a while is getting tossed.
one of the biggest things that needs to go is all our jw books and bound volumes.
i've gotten rid of all the loose wt and awakes quite a while ago.. today when hubby came home from work, and saw the bags to go to the dump he was impressed!
I still have alot of bound volumes. I have already burned out one shredder and bought another one. I didn't want them to go into the trash for fear some trash man would be curious and read them. I would feel responsible for their joining a cult.
it's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.
if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.
presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.
Little green bendy Gumby says:
Why this letter is being read baffles me unless there has been a problem with publishers calling on DFed ones and speaking with them. All witnesses know that speaking to a DFed one is a no no....let alone having one on your magazine route as a return visit or even for a first time encounter with one in the ministry.
That was my first thought. This is a reminder, and it is letting people know-df'd ones included-that they are bad... bad...and not to be associated with. They need to be punished, and humiliated if they come to the Hall.
Everyone needs to see that they have no literature with them, so that they are visible to everyone and it is evident that they are unworthy. They need to grovel to an elder and humbly ask for spiritual food, such as the Pharisees fed to the ones in their day--you know, the ones that Jesus described as giving crumbs from the table.
Only really worthy ones will have literature. The elders will determine if you are a regular attender. Everyone will have to determine for himself how they will get the attention of the elders to show that they are at the meetings.
Maybe they could take roll. If a person is traveling for some reason, he could get a voucher signed that he attended elsewhere.
if any of you have read my first post you know where i am right now... just a re-cap.
i really hate alot of what my witness friends think and do and say and i'm on my way out.
my best friend who i went everywhere with disassociated me.
Yes-did you put your education on the back burner because the ORG said you didn't need one? Run, don't walk, to the nearest community college or University near you and enroll. You need some new friends and the self esteem that an education can give you.
Get a hobby, also. I am working on this one, as when you are "in" there is never time for anything, and now I have the time to develop things I am interested in.
Give yourself time. Read a good book, and take it slow. Things will come your way. Enjoy your new found life!!
i have received word that we are now 'very, very close'.
at the sunday meeting, according to my trusted source, the speaker actually said that 'it is no longer years, nor months - yet weeks and days'.
so they need you back, now!
I remember in 1973, when I was studying, asking the woman who studied with me how much longer we had. She said that we had about two more years. That, of course, would be 1975. I was highly motivated by this information and got baptised in that year.
Later, of course, most said that it was just a few people running ahead of the ORG. when it was the ORG itself that made everyone quake and shudder waiting for 1975.
Yes, wouldn't it be delicious if the WT or Kingdom Ministry as it was in 1975 came out and said something similar? That the end would be a matter of months, not years, again as they did then? No doubt many would then start to leave as many did in 1975 when their prophesies went unfulfilled.
Why did they schedule all the Conventions for this summer if they felt last summer that the end was so close? And yes, why are they selling property, and having a different setup starting in January for the WT magazines?
this is strange, i read that in 1995 they did away with the "generation" teaching, yet the official watchtower website still says this, over 12 years later !.
thus, all the features of the last days must take place within the lifetime of one generation, the generation of 1914. so some people who were alive in 1914 will still be alive when this system comes to its end.
that generation of people is now very advanced in years, indicating that there is not much time left before god brings this present system of things to an end.. http://www.watchtower.org/library/pr/article_07.htm.
I reported earlier that the change in generation thing was in 1995 in the Watchtower. I remember sitting in the KH and looking around at the drones and no one batted an eye, just accepted without question the change.
I do not have the literature any more. Can someone help with this doctrinal change? Someone more knowledgeable than me can find the references on the forum, can't they?
this hasn't happened to me in a very long time.
i was in the kitchen fixing dinner for the kids not really thinking about anything other than dinner..then bamm i was overwhelmed with a panic feel and very bad thoughts that i'd rather not discuss.
i dropped what i was doing and went into zach's room just to get a bit of peace and recollect myself.
Don't be hard on yourself. You did what was right. Calmed yourself down. Rice is good for us.
Hope you can get outside in this nice weather, take a deep breath, and enjoy reflecting on good things. The flowers in my yard are beautiful right now, and I have the blessing of a husband, daughter, and two cats.
ray franz states that, according to governing body decisions on matters of faith, fault found with certain of a religion's teachings makes said faith, in its totality, unacceptable to god.
therefore one's association in that religion renders one unclean.
as a consequence, a jehovah's witness would be disfellowshiped for joining the y.m.c.a.
When on vacation recently, I ambled into a small bookstore. I did not realize that it was a religious book store. On the shelves were many books about Catholicism, and other religions. There was even a controversial book about the woman Pope, as some think there was.
I mentioned that I saw that they even included material that was controversial to a man in charge at the store, who turned out to be an Episcopalian Priest from the church next door. He was very knowledgeable about religion, and very nice.
If people of other religions are allowed to read and think for themselves, and are still members of their religion because they choose to be, why can't JWs?
By the way, the Priest invited us to go through the courtyard into the "Nave" or sanctuary of his church, and view it. It is over 100 years old, and very beautiful. An organist was practicing on a pipe organ. It was a real treat.
Maybe if the JWs were more forthcoming on beliefs from long ago, and mistakes, we wouldn't be so dissillutioned when we find them out.
And other churches don't throw people out for asking questions.
