Posts by Quandry

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Quandry

One of his closing comments was that at Armageddon, educated people will be able to add a few more letters after their names...D.E.A.D. ....ah...yes, everyone laughed and clapped. How very Christian.

Seriously, if anyone still has not attended a convention and is going to, please tape record the talk on Sunday about being taught by Jehovah. If this statement is in the talk, we will know that it is nationwide and not an isolated comment by the speaker at one Convention.

I think then that letter writing campaigns to newspapers could begin, and I would be glad to start one. If it is one thing most Americans want, it is a good education for their children.

This statement could be very damaging for them. It is at the very least cold, ill-mannered, and insulting to many.

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I can't do anything about...

by Blueblades in

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i have come to this point in my life, there are things that i can't do anything about.. for example: i can't do anything about whether or not there is an afterlife.

i can't to do anything about all the books i read on the subjects: the denial of death, life after life, man's search for meaning, the problem of pain, the history of god, the question of god, atheism, the case against god, the case for christ, the case against christianity, searching for eternity, the myth of certainty,the blind watchmaker, the theory of everything,the holographic universe.. and many many more books that i have read on the pros and cons of many subjects, the list is too big to list here.

some of the ones i did list focus on life and death issues.

Quandry

All the topics on this forum that have touched on life and death issues I have read and have come to the conclusion that there is really nothing I can do about it but just wait and try to live each day with some measure of enjoyment and happiness.

I agree. For over thirty years I thought I knew without a doubt what would happen at death. Although I am a Christian and feel that Jesus died so that I could live, I am not certain where that might be.

Nope, we can't do anything other than live each day. But after those thirty years of living at a frantic pace with study, meetings, service, cleaning, going to conventions, etc. I am happy to have time to really appreciate simple things. A beautiful flower, my own home, animals, sunsets.

Good post. Thanks.

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Help !!!! I need some answers...shall I continue in the truth???

by resthe in

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i need some answers or advice from the experienced brothers/sisters regarding my stand.

i am too shy to go to the elders.

shall i continue and pursue my life and hopefully be part of the organization once again ??

Quandry

it's not a bro, it's a mansierre. lol That is hilarious-it is from a Seinfeld episode.

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Will The New Watchtower Kill Off The Awake?

by metatron in

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i don't know if any of you have considered this but is the new watchtower arrangement partly intended.

to permit the end of the awake magazine?.

it is a financially difficult thing for a religion the size of the "truth" to publish one - much less two .

Quandry

I think it makes good business sense to combine the WT and AWAKE magazines. Only one front and back cover to print. Maybe we could help the org. with new names for the magazine.

1. Awaktower

2. Watchake

3. Watchit

4. Waktor

5. Towake

Is the new edition of the dubs only WT going to have pictures? Think about how bored the kids will be if there aren't even any pictures to look at during the study.

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district convention side effects...

by candidlynuts in

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yes its convention time again.

my kids who've been warming up to me more, have all the sudden stopped taking my calls.

cancelling plans with me because of " other plans".

Quandry

Middlechild said,

there was a talk at my sister's hall where they were told to write down their top 5 friends. then they were to see what those friends could do for them spiritually. well my sister said that she just couldn't see how i could fit into her friends' list because i couldn't do anything to upbuild her spiritually.

What a wonderful way to "clean out" the deadwood. If they can't do things for you, who needs em? I think five is really too many. Can that many really be next to perfect in always being "up" and "spiritual" in every way? We can't count ones who have bad days and need our help, because they wouldn't be "doing things for us spiritually."

This is the way the WTS is going. No one is good enough. You must examine everyone you know. The ones with faults cannot be associated with. The ones who miss meetings on occasion-no! The ones who are not taking the lead in the ministry-not spiritual enough! The ones who do not have their WT underlined-horrors! Do they in fact have a cleaning job or would they be (gasp) materialistic? Is every child sitting perfectly still at every meeting taking notes even though they are only six months old?

Even your sisters. Perhaps you could advise them to evaluate each other. It seems that on occasion they are less than the "ideal" witness. I suggest that each one of them consider the other "not spiritual" enough.

I am sure that they will have less friends now because if they ever need help from anyone in the KHall, they will unfortunately show themselves as ones who are not at the ready to "upbuild spiritually," and risk losing them.

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I've been studying with JW's for a few months..

by MichaelM in

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i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.

i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .

but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.

Quandry

Welcome to the forum. I know everyone is giving advice left and right, and I don't want to weigh you down more.

Just suffice it to say that we all want you to slooooow doooown. You don't have to make any decisions today or tomorrow. The Witnesses want you to think that the world is going to end in the next three days if not sooner. My husband and I were "in" for over thirty years and stayed stressed all the time thinking that we were at the end of the end of the end of this system. Of course, then we found out that the first president of the WTS thought that the end would be here in the late 1800s at first, then changed the date many times.

Well, anyway, you seem young and a bit inexperienced. The study conductor, on the other hand, exudes confidence and experienc. He speaks with authority.

The thing that will combat this is education. Educate yourself on the Bible and the history of the Watch Tower Society. Many websites have WT quotes from days past. Education is a very good thing. If you have not started college, perhaps you could do this. This will really help you to be able to think for yourself and give you confidence.

There is never any harm in asking questions. This man will eventually tire of them. Tell him you must be sure before you make any decisions. This is important. You mentioned that your sister is a witness. You risk her never speaking to you again if you become baptised and then decide to change your mind. So, sloooooow doooown.

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Punished by our friends for the letter we sent.

by LennyinBluemont in

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some of you may have read our exit letter from august of last year which we sent to about 50 of our close jw "friends", many of whom we had been very close to for decades.

we just told them what we had learned regarding the un scandal and provided all the documentation.

we never disassociated ourselves, nor have we been disfellowshipped.

Quandry

Well, now. Can't you just imagine the buzz that was taking place in the K.Hall? Maybe the ones that were your customers got together to compare notes as to what their actions would be. Maybe there were talks about you in the K.Hall. You sure seem to have kept them very busy. Fifty letters is alot. With the way the Witnesses gossip, you can bet that many more people know about the U.N. scandal now.

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Quandry

This is from Saturday afternoon program. The speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....A.A., B.A., M.A., Ph.D., etc.; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall." One of his closing comments was that at Armageddon, educated people will be able to add a few more letters after their names...D.E.A.D. ....ah...yes, everyone laughed and clapped. How very Christian.

Well, I may be droning on about this but I am just so disgusted at this comment.

Because a person has an education does that mean he is deserving of death?

Where would this idiot be if we did not have educated people? Who would build the roads that brought him to the convention? How about the sound system? If not for educated people we would not have electricity, or buildings, or doctors, or geologists, or meteorologists, or teachers, etc.

What we would have are very clean floors and windows, and backward people without abilities to progress.

What drivel!! AAHHHHRRRRRRGGGGG!!!!!!!

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LIFE IS GOOD!

by Dansk in

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what the heck.

i'm sitting here with idle time.

ok, so what's so great about that?

Quandry

Thank you for posting and keeping us updated.

Your garden sounds beautiful. My hubbie and I continue to work in our backyard. Even though small, we have put many different kinds of flowering plants in it. We have hummingbird bushes, and does it attract them!! I've always wanted a small pond. Do you have turtles? I love seeing them sunning themselves near water.

Right now, we have many new little doves all around. We go out in the back with our two cats who love to watch the birds and sometimes they are divebombed by the mockingbirds and blue jays.

Wonder why I have a taste for cake right now?

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Quandry

This is from Saturday afternoon program. The speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....A.A., B.A., M.A., Ph.D., etc.; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall." One of his closing comments was that at Armageddon, educated people will be able to add a few more letters after their names...D.E.A.D. ....ah...yes, everyone laughed and clapped. How very Christian.

Here in Texas, the conventions are sometimes held at University facilities, as one last year, on the Texas A&M campus.

The one near Houston this year is being held in a beautiful new facility owned by a school district, which is next to a new community college.

The nerve of the WTS to rent an auditorium built by people who value education and then insult them!! !

What was the name of the talk? I wish I had a recording of it, and would send it to the head of the school district that is renting them the facility. He has a doctorate in education and is very passionate about the importance of learning.

I think the only thing this talk is going to encourage is for all the rank and file to continue to be... D.U.M.B..... before they end up ...D.E.A.D.... like everyone else.

Cue the laughing and clapping.