Posts by Lehtiveli

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Marriage advice needed...am I being unreasonable?

by Virgochik in

any comments appreciated because i can't think clearly right now!

here's the story.... .

hubby and i married 5-1/2 years ago.

Lehtiveli

My opinion is (sorry, I didn't read all replies but still wanted to write something)

You should talk about that, directly, without yelling and raging ;)
If your partner has some fobia, they can solve fobias with little psychological help. I don't believe that real reason is fobias, it is more like lazyness or your partner is getting little "old and boring". You must say that traveling is really important to you and so on, I think you will get him off his butt.

And last: Make travel plans to come to Finland. Living Slow life ;)

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my experiences (new user =))

by Lehtiveli in

i finally made myself to register on this board.

i think i should tell my experiences.

so, i was born to a jw family.

Lehtiveli

To hellrider:

Yep.. In Finland, goverment has decided that it is easier to give free pass to every JW than to force them to jail. Because some years ago, civil service was not accepted by JW's. Now, when they do accept civil services, many smaller organizations try to change law so JW's should go to civil service also. But now, if you are baptised JW, you get an automatic free pass for 3 years, and then you have to renew it (with paper from congregation) and then you get 3 more years and so on.. Final free pass comes when you are 29 years old.

So you must be "active JW" (spreading the word, giving watchtowers to everyone) and send reports to your congregation to get pass for army.
Free pass renewals go usually like this:
1st is when you are 18 years old when every male goes to "draft force".
2nd is when you are 21 years old.
3rd is when you are 24.
4th is when you are 26-27.
5th is usually when you are 29 and that's final free pass.

So if you are "inactive member" you don't get paper from your congragation and that means civil service. If you apply for civil service, most likely you get problems with elders and they will probably disfellowship you. Because they think it is easier to start field service than go to civil service. That's one way to keep males in organization.

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my experiences (new user =))

by Lehtiveli in

i finally made myself to register on this board.

i think i should tell my experiences.

so, i was born to a jw family.

Lehtiveli

Reply to: I-follow-the-narrow-path
Of course I was told to preach every schoolmate, so that's how they knew that I was a JW.
Every good JW has to preach to everyone and I did that, because I was too young and too stupid back then

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Are you at peace with God?

by JH in

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by telling us that we shall be destroyed at armageddon, and that we live a life that god doesn't approve of, the jw's are trying to make us believe that we are at odds with god.. were they successful?

Lehtiveli

I'm in peace with myself, so I'm in peace with my God. Selfish? Maybe, but working better than when I was a JW.
Back then I was sad all the time and I felt like I'm doing something wrong, when I was happy.

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my experiences (new user =))

by Lehtiveli in

i finally made myself to register on this board.

i think i should tell my experiences.

so, i was born to a jw family.

Lehtiveli

Usually Finnish people just read this board, I think we have some finnish people posting also. Most of people are afraid to write english because they fear that nobody understands them.

I've heard that some native-english people said that finnish people have better knowledge of english grammar than they do :D
May be, because we have to learn english grammar something like 6 years in comprehensive school.

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WatchTower Library and unix

by Lehtiveli in

jw
friends

have you managed to get wt library to run on unix?.

i have mac osx computer and i would to get library running on my computer smootly.

i have tried using qemu windows emulator but it's slow as hell.. any tips?.

Lehtiveli

mac osx is unix based, almost all linux software works after little "tuning". with normal i386 system and linux WT lib works perfectly

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my experiences (new user =))

by Lehtiveli in

i finally made myself to register on this board.

i think i should tell my experiences.

so, i was born to a jw family.

Lehtiveli

Yea. WT organization is all the same everywhere ;) Funny that only people who live in USA has replied here... my dream is to move to USA for couple years with my wife, I hope I can do that... getting a visa is real hard. I would like to get to know US culture better, in Finland we have really different lifestyle.. I hope my english is good enough ;)

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WatchTower Library and unix

by Lehtiveli in

jw
friends

have you managed to get wt library to run on unix?.

i have mac osx computer and i would to get library running on my computer smootly.

i have tried using qemu windows emulator but it's slow as hell.. any tips?.

Lehtiveli

Hello to all!
Have you managed to get WT library to run on unix?
I have Mac OSX computer and I would to get library running on my computer smootly. I have tried using Qemu windows emulator but it's slow as hell.
Any tips?

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When Did You Start To S L O W Down In The "Truth"???

by minimus in

jw
friends

when you look back at it, what got you to slow down?

?

Lehtiveli

I slowed down when I was little because of bullying in school. Soon after that I got my internet connection and visited some apostate websites to look for truth. Because "truth can overcome all accusations". Truth could not overcome them :)

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my experiences (new user =))

by Lehtiveli in

i finally made myself to register on this board.

i think i should tell my experiences.

so, i was born to a jw family.

Lehtiveli

First, Hello to all! I finally made myself to register on this board. I think I should tell my experiences. So, I was born to a JW family. I dont have any brothers/sisters, so I got my parents full attention on "truth". My dad was and is still an elder of congregation. When I was at school, almost everyone bullied me all the time because I was different. They throw stones and stuff on me and hit & kick when I was at ground. In many cases I had to walk home bleeding. Worst thing was when 1 bad guy threw an AXE to me. Luckily it didn't hit. Then I got older and grew faster than my fellow classmembers. Then I could protect myself and I got into many big fights. Same time I was forced to go to meetings, even I didn't care them. I just wished that I could be a normal boy. Then, my parents encouraged me to start going to field service on my own. So I became non-baptised servant. Then it years passed by and all my friends were JW's. One of my best friends encouraged me all the time to get baptised. In Finland, every male has to go to army at age of 18, so most JW children get baptised before that to get "free pass" from army. They have to renew their free pass every 3 years, and you need a document from JW congregation for that. So, I got baptised at age of 16, though I knew that they didnt have the truth and I had visited apostate websites for several years. I didnt want to wait till I was 17 because then everyone would think that I baptised only for free pass from army. I didn't think that JW's were the "truth" and still I got baptised. Then things started to get different. I was hoping that JW's were the truth and tried very hard to go to field service and so on, I got some stupid errands at my congregation. At the same time my friend who encouraged me got little "away" from truth and he had some problems with elders. That gave me strenght to talk to him and we acknowledged that we have same kinds of thoughts about "truth". At the same time, I met my girlfriend, who is now my wife. She is a former member of pentacostal movement, so we have many good discussions about faith. She has some weird experiences on pentacostal movement and it's fun to share them. I didn't go to meetings anymore, and after 2 weeks nobody talked with me. I got marked. I think they thought that I'm not "very good" JW at all because they ignored me so quickly. I didnt go to conventions at summer and my parents were whining me all the time. They started to ignore me and they started to blackmail and pressure me. Mostly with money because unemployment is big problem in Finland, and I'm unemployed now. That didn't change my mind and I continued to date my non-JW girlfriend. My parents didn't want to meet her at that time, but later they met her and my dad gave her a 45minute talk about "JW = true religion" and I was afraid that she would get scared and leave me. Luckily she just laughed and everything went fine. We got engaged after 8 months of dating and my parents were shocked. We got married and luckily my parents came to our wedding. But none of my JW relatives did come. Some weeks before our wedding that friend of mine, who I mentioned earlier, got disfellowshipped for smoking. Real reason was that he became an apostate, but smoking gave them easy way to kick him. He tape recorded all stuff what elders said and we made JW information website, because there is very few of those in Finnish. (if you are able to read Finnish, address is http://veljesseura.org). Of course I invited my disfellowshipped friend to my wedding and my parents were shocked again. They ran away from our wedding about 30 seconds after my friend arrived. I'm still officially member of congregation even I have said about 5 times that I dont want to be a JW. Now I think I'll wait that they disfellowship me so I get more good material for our website. That's my story.