Hi Sunshine too! I'll be passing by BU on my way out of here today so I'll give it a little wave for you! I've been out of college myself for a few years now so the class I'll be at tonight is more of a personal/professional enrichment type of class. Unfortunately, it's also mandatory attendance so I'm dragging my over-tired self there. Need...caffeine...pronto...
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Where are you ?
by sunshineToo in.
in which part of the planet are you?
i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?
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Where are you ?
by sunshineToo in.
in which part of the planet are you?
i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?
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Yikes! Lots of Massachusetts folks here!
I'm in Boston at the moment, then I get in car and go just outside of Boston and go home to bed (after I go to class and do an armload of errands, that is).
So Massachusetts is representing! Very nice. Of course, I'm not an exjw. So no Baystate apostofests for me Damn outcast that I am...
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CULT CULT CULT
by minimus ini have read many opinions about jw's being a cult.a dictionary describes cult as a system of religious beliefs and ritual .. some have viewed even major religions as a cult, such as the roman catholic church.based upon webster almost anybody or anything that is viewed as ritualistic could be said to be cultic.when someone tries to negate jehovah's witnesses by using.
the "cult" word, i believe they are not seeing that many others could legitimately be regarded as a cult or at least "cultic".therefore the word loses alot of meaning.
some have said that the watchtower is a cult because of the control factor.
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Bleep said:
This will detroy any thinking about me being in a cult.
hmmm.
Nope. You still look like a (blood)card carrying member of a destructive cult to me. What's it going to take for you to get suspicious? When they hand you a tambourine or when they hand you the kool-aid?
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JW response to 23,720
by ChristianObserver infound this posted and thought it should be brought to the attention of members ......... "from: [email protected] .
i have since had a chance to look into this matter.
the numbers are way off beam and appear to have been exaggerated by someone.
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Gracias, Hawk!
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JW response to 23,720
by ChristianObserver infound this posted and thought it should be brought to the attention of members ......... "from: [email protected] .
i have since had a chance to look into this matter.
the numbers are way off beam and appear to have been exaggerated by someone.
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Hawk (and others),
anyone know where I can view a scan of the 11/15/73 Q.F.R.?thanks in advance!
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Good Question
by Joseph_Muth indear outoftheorg:.
satan tempted jesus (without success).
peter , all the other disciples with some success.
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(if we judged Paul by his actions we would have been wrong).
Presumably a typo?
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The Society requires you to die
by ServetMiguel inthere is a little known booklet called "preparing for child custody cases" which on page 55 says the following:.
preparation for psychological or psychiatric evaluation.
about the practice of his religiol1, al1d that he is l1ot merely parroting the expressions that you have provided for him.
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Interesting. Do you have a scan you can include?
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Why do Jws use id badges at assemblys?
by haujobbz ini have wondered why jws wear" id badges" at assemblys and not on the preaching work or at the hall,i know of someone who was stopped by an attendant because he wasnt wearing a badge.is it something to do with showing off our religious belief to outsiders, i must be honest i use to take mine off when leaving the assemblys but i noticed many wearing theres even when going home on the bus or walking home "i knew of 1 who wore his to bed", mormons wear id cards on their preaching work so do you think jws should.maybe due to the paedophile scandal jws may have to wear id badges especially paedophiles.
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LOL @ Mike Musto
I bumped into some badge-wearing, bad-suit clad kids going into a grocery store a couple of weeks ago. They were followed by a sedate, sensible-shoes mother in a floral dress and a father that had a frothing, conservative, impotent little zealot type of air about him.
Sadly, I didn't get close enough to read the badges but I suspect they would've smelled the sin on me and scattered into the underbrush if I had drawn too near to 'em.Oh well.
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Give the BBC your comments on "PANORAMA"
by Prisca inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_855000/855727.stm
on this link you can give public comments on your views of the panorama programme.
already, several jws are in denial over the claims of the programme, and i think we need to add some balanced comments to show that there are many ex-jws who have been hurt by the wts, and that we appreciated the programme.. please tell the bbc your thoughts..
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I sent mine in too.
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My B/F told me he's a J/W after months of dating!
by Funky_Diva_53_2000 inhi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).
after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.
something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).
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What makes you think we don't care,BHI? Is it because the stinging reality that's been injected into this thread? I feel bad for you but at the same time I'm not ready to hear poor excuses for bad behavior. You're in a tough spot. Not because of this girl, but because of the restrictive environment in which you dwell. You should be able to look at your religion- good and bad- and be free enough to assess whether or not it's really all it claims it is. But if you rely solely on what they claim then you will never really make that assessment honestly. You're stuck- and I feel bad that you are.
But... being in a bad spot doesn't give you the right to drag an innocent bystander into your situation. And that's exactly what you are doing. Putting all sorts of pressure on your relationship as if it's your coupledom versus god is unfair. And I can't imagine any seventeen year old girl can really handle that strain. I don't know of any mature adults who can grow and prosper in a situation like that actually! your relationship will have enough ups and downs as you grow into adulthood as it is. Being a member of a high control group and the baggage that goes along with it is additional strain that will take a long time to work through. The odds are against you two but I'm not saying it can't be done.
So, you have two completely separate issues to deal with. First, you have to do more than just soul searching. You have to do serious research on the bible and on your religion. NOT from sources provided by your religion either. But from a more well-rounded array of sources. Stop pitting your relationship against your religion. That's not what this is about.
Second, you have a young girl who is very smitten with you. You have a responsibility to treat her right. that means no more lying. NO MORE LYING, you understand what I'm saying here? You don't have to marry the girl, but you have to be serious about being a partner in a growing relationship. If you can't do that, then walk away. And keep in mind that it is not legal to fool around with this young girl in many states. Keep it clean, for both your sakes.
Perhaps you should consider taking a three month vacation from both your girlfriend and meetings. Explain what you're doing and tell her you'll call her in three months. In the meantime- no meetings, no field service and no magazines or books put out by your religion. Take this time to investigate, to soul search and to start to sort out who you are without the organization or your girlfriend coloring it. Honestly, I doubt you'd take this suggestion though I think it's a pretty good one.
You brought someone into this situation, that's been done. Now it's time to look after both of you. But, I think it would be a terrible waste if you walked away from this experience without knowing the lesson in it. If you don't make that heartache mean something by just returning to your old ways, then you've missed the whole point. Don't waste lifes little lessons or you'll just end up a conscienceless drone. Make this situation mean something to your growth as a person. And if you let it just be some indescretion that you apologise for and try to tuck away, I really think that's horrible and disgusting. Please don't be one of those people. Be a better person than that. Take this situation and let it be a point of growth and self-exploration. oh yeah, and try not to take anymore unwitting victims into this mess until you've got a better hold of who are, what you're involved in and what kind of true friend you can be.