Love it when something like this happens. The more eyes on this high control group the better! Obviously, in her head, she's still "in" believing that tripe but it could take years before she really frees her mind. If ever.
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One less celebrity Scientologist
by Gopher init makes me very happy when a popular celebrity leaves a cult, because it could give others the courage to do it or start to think about leaving.. leah remini played carrie on "the king of queens", and has also been on "saved by the bell", "the talk" and had small parts in other shows.. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/leah-remini-leaves-church-of-scientology-calls-it-corrupt-report-2013117.
leah remini leaves church of scientology, calls it "corrupt": report.
the church of scientology has one less celebrity among its ranks, according to a new report: leah remini.
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Natick, MA Assembly Hall
by Eiben Scrood ini have a lot of memories of attending assemblies there for 30 years.
does anyone remember all the purple coloring?
remember that guy who used to wave a stick like he was conducting an orchestra except there was no orchestra, only a guy playing the piano and the audience singing?.
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Well, I've never been a witness but I remember I was on route 30 in Natick and was behind a car with an ex-jw type bumper sticker. It may have been a silent lambs sticker, I'm not sure. I tried to inch up next to the car at the light to try to get a peek at the guy driving it. I wanted to roll down my window and say something (what?! I don't know) but the light changed. I wondered if it was someone who was on this board...
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Have you ever won anything? In a raffle, lottery, etc?
by restrangled ini am so disgusted right now, more with myself than anything.. we have this big albertsons grocery store monopoly game going where i live.....the more of certain products you buy, the more tickets you receive.
not only are there instant winners, but then you enter codes on line.. ha....after 2 months, i've won $5.00 and a bottle of clorox beach.
i have spent more than i ever would have normally.
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I won an autographed book of poems about the Donner party. Yes, poems about the Donner party. My friend took it before I got to read it,sadly. So i will never have this important question answered: other than Hannibal- what rhymes with cannibal?
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My JW parents met my wife, but would not see me...
by Confession inso it was time for the 25 year reunion of tawas area high school's class of '84.
because i was class president, i've been responsible for throwing all the reunions we've held.
while i come to michigan on business a few times per year, i don't usually make it all the way up to the little, northeast, lake huron tourist town where they live.
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Wow, this situation is hitting close to home with me at the moment. Like your wife, I'm not and never have been a witness. Due to a family illness my husband recently had occasion to visit with the parents who have been shunning him for about ten years or so. They didn't tell him when his grandparent or his aunt died- didn't come to our wedding. You know, they've been busy with other things I guess and couldn't bother moving past their religious rules long enough to be decent to their son. I know, I know- I've never met them so I suppose I shouldn't judge them but obviously I'm not really keen on their behavior no matter what lousy pseudo-religious excuse they'd offer.
Anyway, this illness came about and my husband went to see them. He asked if I wanted to go, which I did not. First off, I think that the family member in question was in a vulnerable state so I didn't see the point in forcing a looooooong overdue introduction in such a weird situation. But also, in all honesty, I'm not sure I can really, truly move past my feeling of anger at what these two people have done to my beloved with their foolish, foolish choices. I'm not consumed with anger by any means, but when I really think about how awful he's been made to feel, I find it just plain unacceptable. And, even though I'm a usually a softy who ends up being pretty nice, I can't be entirely sure I won't lose my patience and say something.
So, I could have gone- and maybe I should have gone- but I have really mixed feelings about the whole thing. The hubster said his dad is prone to lecturing too and that probably would have been disatrous as I am not likely to sit around indefinitely while someone spews culty junk at me. And it probably eased hubby's mind that his headship wouldn't be called into question as he tried to muffle his free-thinking wife's words. So, in that situation it probably worked out for the best.
However, it looks as though he will be reuniting with them again soon, though and I really don't know how to proceed from here. I know it's wrong but I don't want to meet them. I don't want to bite my tongue while someone I don't know rambles on and on about a fantasy paradise earth that I'll never know courtesy of a high-control group I'll never be a part of. I don't want to pretend that it's okay that they've ignored him for ten years. The thought of it just puts my stomach in knots. I guess I'll do whatever is necessary for my beloved, but I really deeply,deeply dread meeting his parents.
I suppose I could learn a lesson from rachel. She sounds like a very patient person. I wonder what she was thinking as you dropped her off in front of their house. That's a good question for her!
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in love with a JW
by jimcic inhi im new here but i came for advice im not a religous person but i'm in love with a jehovahs witness,.
she says she also loves me very much but she wants me to jump ship and become a witness,.
do you think there is some way that the two of us can be together or am i just dreaming,.
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Been there, done that. I was the "worldly" one, my beloved a witness. I would strongly suggest looking at some books from Steven Hassan like "combatting mind control" and his other book (the title of which I cannot recall). Witness specific materials may be too hard too grasp at first. YOur honey is in... sorry to say it like this... a cult. I think the difficulty of my situation hit me when I realized my beloved was a member of a high-control group. You need to educate yourself on how these groups work so that you can understand what you are up against. I really wish I were exagerating about the whole cult thing- but unfortunately, I'm not. So look into high control groups. Google Steven Hassan. Also, check the "best of" category on this website. You'll find lots of people have been in your shoes. LOTS of people. Prepare for a little heartbreak. Good lluck!
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Older posters check in...just post your name...we need to hear from you!
by restrangled ini am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
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I grow old, I grow old...
logged in a long time ago but I still check in when I can.
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Tornado on the night of the Memorial in Oklahoma
by whereami inquite an experience...what trust they showed in jehovah.
mena is located right at the oklahoma state line...usa.
i have been in contact with a brother, he says they are all fine.. just wanted to let you know that everything is ok here after the tornado that hit mena last thursday during the memorial.
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Ah yes, the meeting saved their lives. Similarly, had they been at a Walmart, the god of discount goods would have been credited. Or at a Yanni concert- maybe a McDonald's- Or at the Unitarian Church down the way? I can see it now... "Hooters saved our lives..."
You mustn't dim that sort of brilliance with a logical argument.
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Steven Hassan's Cult book...
by homeschool inok, so i'm over halfway through with this book on combatting cult mind control.
does the dude ever mention jw's (besides one page in the bibliography at the end)?
if not, would there be a way to get a jw to read the book, maybe pointing fingers at some other cult religion so you dont appear to be talking about the witnesses?
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Hi Homeschool,
it sounds like you are really being cautious which is good. Hopefully you'll have an interesting answer on Friday. It's good that you are conscious of how long it can take to unlock a person's mind. I took a systematic approach when I was working to free me honey from the mindset. Sometimes I did well and felt good about the situation and other times I'd push too hard and see my honey clam up. I tried to learn as best as I could from my mistakes but it certainly was a bumpy, looooong road. Then again, it did eventually work (but some of the mind set remains at deeper levels- but he's out and it's been good). Good luck with your sis...
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Steven Hassan's Cult book...
by homeschool inok, so i'm over halfway through with this book on combatting cult mind control.
does the dude ever mention jw's (besides one page in the bibliography at the end)?
if not, would there be a way to get a jw to read the book, maybe pointing fingers at some other cult religion so you dont appear to be talking about the witnesses?
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I think part of the issue is that you can't hand the book to someone in a high control group and say, "here read this" to begin with. For the most part, people in high control groups are used to having other people feed them information and are discouraged from researching information on their own. I think instead of telling them to do the work themselves, you need to subtly incorporate what you are learning into everyday conversations. It will make it far less threatening for the cult member. Deliver little tidbits of info on "those other groups" and let them make the connection. You have to ease them into thinking on their own. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily want to read something that rocked my every fiber of being- would you? You have to be ready for it. So, go ahead and gently prep them. Get them thinking a little bit at a time. That's just my thought on the matter. Great book!
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Do YOU Look Like YOUR Avatar/JWD mini-pic
by RAYZORBLADE indo you look like your jwd profile pic?.
just curious.. that stupid pic of me in a columbia rain jacket is real.
it's 2 yrs.
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Yes, it is a picture of me. And, as with LisaVegas, I'm naked in the rest of that picture too...