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  ks10-e (official release), Letter from Bro. who scanned it! Newer version with BOE LTRs

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).

  also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.

  so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].

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  bttt
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  Child Abuse Policy question re: credible evidence

  by Open mind in

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  2. child-abuse

  i'm familiar with the two witness rule and just read that it still stands in the new elder's book.. .

  if a child accuses someone of sexual abuse:.

  1. call the branch.

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  fokyc

  Here is their present policy:

  http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article23.htm

  I can't quote, as it's copyrighted!
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  Books

  by 8209233306 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm would like to get the new elders manual as well as the pioneer-book (2004).

  interesed in what they actually have to say.. and if everything in them can be found in the literature, why are they so secret?.

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  fokyc

  That is the reason they had to publish a new edition,

  there was no more room in the old one to write any more notes in!

  Not only wide margins in the new one, there are a few blank pages!
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  DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).

  i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.

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  fokyc

  Lady Lee; I know the feeling!
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  Don't Forget Wikileaks!

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the midst of all this talk about copyright law and a cult's right to keep its 'secret' book off the internet, let's not forget wikileaks!.

  they had the old elder's book, last i looked.. metatron.

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  fokyc

  NOTE: At the moment WikiLeaks is not accepting new submissions due to re-engineering improvements the site to make it both more secure and more user-friendly. Since we are not currently accepting submissions during the re-engineering, we have also temporarily closed our online chat support for how to make a submission. We anticipate reopening the electronic drop box and live chat support in the near future.
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  "Fault finding attitude"

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this term is always used in articles about apostasy.. it find it wholly ironic that the wt accuses anyone of having a fault finding attitude.. you ever have someone accuse you to your face of a trait that is blatantly their own?

  this would be a case of that.. the wt does almost nothing but bring up faults inside their organization and out.

  they never miss an opportunity to find fault in the witnesses daily lives as well as slander any outside organization they can even in menial ways.. -sab.

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  fokyc

  In a letter from the cong elders to the branch:

  "Brother fokyc reads ALL the Societies literature; but only to find fault".
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  Did you ever love to be in the Watchtower?

  by asilentone in

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  fokyc

  YES; back in the 50's and 60's it was very nice, I did everything I was expected to,

  I was going to have everlasting life in a beautiful new world, wasn't I?

  But after 1975 things and people changed and it's got worse since.
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  DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).

  i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.

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  fokyc

  djeggnog says: This textbook is not a secret manual, for while only elders have received copies of it, ministerial servants are permitted to read it, although copies of it have been provided to just the elders.

  I must disagree; ONLY Elders are allowed a copy and only Elders are allowed access to it.

  As no income can be or will ever be derived from this book, litigation would have little benefit.
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  DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).

  i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.

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  fokyc

  It has just 12 chapters, those requesting PM's have them.
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  DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).

  i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.

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  fokyc

  sd-7 said "The elder's manual you refer to will soon be back in our hands."

  This elder's manual seems to be in everybodies hands now, how exactly do you propose getting it back? it is like trying to close Pandora's Box.