Welcome Spirtos
Definitely NOT recommended, take it from an experienced one.
A life-time of woe!!
fokyc
i have had a relationship with a lovely girl whos been following the jw faith since birth.
she hasnt been baithized yet and planes to this year.
we were going to get married a few years ago but didnt due to problems not reguarding religon.
Welcome Spirtos
Definitely NOT recommended, take it from an experienced one.
A life-time of woe!!
fokyc
i read most of the posts on here and i was just trying to get an understanding on certain topics.
i read some peoples material and why they dont believe in the jw faith.
i understand that some people left the jw faith and some people on here may never have been jws or believed in it, so i understand why you post and give info back and forth, but i have trouble understanding some of the disfellowshipped ones on here.
How about if a JW husband (rank and file) commits adultry and is disfellowshipped and an Elder commits adultry and is not disfellwshipped.
Or an Elders daughter gets pregant out of wedlock and is not disfellowshipped and a daughter of a R&F gets pregant and is disfellowshipped.
Or an Elders son is caught in a homosexual act and is not disfellowshipped and a R&F's son is and is disfellowshipped...
How right ZeroDay is; each one of these events has occured in my wifes congregation, makes me sick!
fokyc
last night on the news a woman was told by a store manager that she could not in public breastfeed her child.
she and her husband were quite offended and complained to the company's main offices.
they are now looking into this situation.. what's your opinion?
Breast fed is best fed and I should know !
fokyc
did you, even in subtle ways, stop living now, "putting all of your eggs" in one basket- the paradise earth?
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were you so busy with "theocratic activities" that you planned to actually enjoy life once the new system arrived..
Yes
, and I'm still doing it, because my wife is so deeply entrenched. Not even the trauma of the recent case we have been involved in will shift her.I despair, I am controlled by the WTBTS, night and day.
fokyc
http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=139760&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=139586&contentpk=16917608&folderpk=80785&pnodeid=139317.
date : 20.03.07. foster mother eunice spry has been found guilty of subjecting children in her care to two decades of horrific abuse.. the 62-year-old, from tewkesbury, beat them, fed them rat droppings, stopped them sleeping and rubbed their faces with sandpaper.
she thrust sticks down their throats when they misbehaved and made them eat dog food.. one daughter was forced to use a wheelchair for four years even though she was perfectly able to walk.. doctors, teachers and neighbours raised constant concerns about spry's treatment of the children but nothing was ever done by social services.. the catalogue of abuse only came to light when one of the children went to the jehovah's witness elders at the church the family attended.. spry, from tewkesbury, was found guilty of 26 charges of cruelty after a three week trial at bristol crown court.
Whether the Elders or the Society like it or not, Eunice Spry has been reporting regularly for the last 6 months.
She IS a Jehovah's Witness in all ways. She has been placing literature in the prison whilst waiting trial.
This case has spiralled out of control since it's start in mid December 2004.
Not one of the original complaints by Child A has stood up; charges of theft of £300 and bank documents were dropped in mid 2005.
Originally there were 4 children listed, Child D, a sibling of Child B and Child C would not uphold ANY of the complaints and was dropped late 2005.
Just ask yourselves, "If all these complaints were true, WHY did it take nearly 30 months to come to trial?"
Some murfer trials have been finished and appeals heard in less time!
fokyc
http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=139760&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=139586&contentpk=16917608&folderpk=80785&pnodeid=139317.
date : 20.03.07. foster mother eunice spry has been found guilty of subjecting children in her care to two decades of horrific abuse.. the 62-year-old, from tewkesbury, beat them, fed them rat droppings, stopped them sleeping and rubbed their faces with sandpaper.
she thrust sticks down their throats when they misbehaved and made them eat dog food.. one daughter was forced to use a wheelchair for four years even though she was perfectly able to walk.. doctors, teachers and neighbours raised constant concerns about spry's treatment of the children but nothing was ever done by social services.. the catalogue of abuse only came to light when one of the children went to the jehovah's witness elders at the church the family attended.. spry, from tewkesbury, was found guilty of 26 charges of cruelty after a three week trial at bristol crown court.
Eunice Spry sentenced to 14 years in prison.
fokyc
http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=139760&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=139586&contentpk=16917608&folderpk=80785&pnodeid=139317.
date : 20.03.07. foster mother eunice spry has been found guilty of subjecting children in her care to two decades of horrific abuse.. the 62-year-old, from tewkesbury, beat them, fed them rat droppings, stopped them sleeping and rubbed their faces with sandpaper.
she thrust sticks down their throats when they misbehaved and made them eat dog food.. one daughter was forced to use a wheelchair for four years even though she was perfectly able to walk.. doctors, teachers and neighbours raised constant concerns about spry's treatment of the children but nothing was ever done by social services.. the catalogue of abuse only came to light when one of the children went to the jehovah's witness elders at the church the family attended.. spry, from tewkesbury, was found guilty of 26 charges of cruelty after a three week trial at bristol crown court.
http://www.courtnews2.co.uk/courtlists/current/brist_T070419.02.htm
The Crown Court at Bristol Daily List for:
Thursday 19 April 2007
at The Law Courts, Small Street,Bristol.Court 10 - SITTING AT 02:00 PM
For Sentence
Case No:T20060182SPRY Eunice Olive
Order made under s39, CYPA 1933.ALLOCATED TO His Honour Judge Simon DARWALL-SMITH+ T20060529 SPRY Eunice Olive ALLOCATED TO HHJ DARWALL-SMITH
+ T20067500 SPRY Eunice Olive ALLOCATED TO HHJ DARWALL-SMITH
fokyc
do you think that there is a common denominator, or are they all different people who found what they call "the truth"?.
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Funny it's called 'The Truth',
The one thing most of them, particularly the elders, have in common is a great ability to lie their socks off
fokyc
below is a discussion of methods of rhetorical fallacy with examples where the watcthower has used these techniques to support suspect doctrine.
can you think of any other examples?.
fallacy number 4 - either/or reasoning.
How True!!
Does the society actually teach 'Logical Fallacy' as a subject at elders schools?
It would appear so, I have had most of these examples used to me over the past 2 years, when in fact it is simply:
"The Elder's Lying"
fokyc
were you discriminated against for any reason in the "christian congregation"?
Education and a very good job.
With a degree, being both an Engineer and Teacher, I was considered some sort of threat
One ex. Elder actually said, he was frightened of me!!
fokyc