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  Am I welcome here?

  by WanderingStar in

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  i am currently df'd but seriously considering returning to the meetings with a view to reinstatement.

  i am looking for honest, open minded discussion.

  if i offend you all by being here, please let me know and i wont come back again.. thanks for reading this!

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  Hey Nellie
  Thats a good question.
  When I arrived here at first I was't sure who were posting, but realized that there were som honest hearted non-witnesses and even some df'd ones who are sincere about going back
  So to answer your question ( and hopefully satisfy that morbid curiosity LOL )
  I'm not sure at this stage. I think I have made some interesting friends who email me, and we have some constructive discussions. Ofcourse there are some pretty volatile fellows here so I may be hounded out of town. LOL
  In any event My 1st Post asked what this board is all about and who posts here ......I was told by many that these are all non-judgmental open minded people. And for the most part I have seen that. But as you can see there are some pretty un-open , judgemental people too.
  I started posting ( one or 2 posts only) under a different nick name , but thought in all fairness I should Id myself as a df'd person
  and allow people to choose to talk to me or not. I have never implied anything other than my desire to get back and my support for the Org.
  So in a nutshell
  You asked will you be good enough to talk to ?
  Like you I will select who I would like to talk to and who not to. If for example I reply to someone I respect and others read it or choose to reply I may or may not respond to them. Like everyone here I will continue to use my own judgement and would like that to be respected by all these open and honest people. Some people I will ignore ...others I will not.
  Does that sound fair?
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  Am I welcome here?

  by WanderingStar in

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  i am currently df'd but seriously considering returning to the meetings with a view to reinstatement.

  i am looking for honest, open minded discussion.

  if i offend you all by being here, please let me know and i wont come back again.. thanks for reading this!

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  W'Star
  PS to my last reply.
  I also want to just say that I applaud your courage in stating here that you are considering going to back to meetings.
  You will need that courage because it may not be easy at first, but it gets a bit easier after a while and it will help you not to forget the benefits of both the association that you will see being enjoyed, and the instruction we recieve there.
  Go for it !!
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  Am I welcome here?

  by WanderingStar in

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  i am currently df'd but seriously considering returning to the meetings with a view to reinstatement.

  i am looking for honest, open minded discussion.

  if i offend you all by being here, please let me know and i wont come back again.. thanks for reading this!

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  DFshipped

  Dear wandering
  You can see from the first few replies that some people here will be peaceful and open minded. You also see from some of the later replies ( to me ) that there also some who do not share that sentiment. Beware of the bitterness and do not be dissapointed by it. Bitterness and resentment is destructive.
  So I look forward to communicating with you.
  My suggestion is that you try to avoid any posts that appear to be provoking futile argument.
  Take care
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  R U DFshipped?

  by DFshipped in

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  i am a dfshipped person who is working towards reinstatement.. i would like to meet anyone else who also would like to return.. i really would prefer not to meet people who want to criticize my desire to return.

  i would like to enjoy and offer encouragemnt to others like me.

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  Larc
  I'm not sure of your motive for replying here. This a "make new friends " forum. Your reply was less than friendly.
  I am in the process of returning. You may not be aware of this but returning does not happen overnight. And yes sometimes things can
  " stand in the way " these could be personal and not open to discussion here.

  It would be nice to hear from anyone else who shares my feelings.
  I've had one email already and that is encouraging.
  I look forward to hearing from you.
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  Questions for DFShipped...

  by LDH in

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  hi, dfs.. first of all, let me say it is not necessary to label yourself on this board, or anywhere on the internet for that matter.. so many of us have family members that are df'd, it really doesn't hold much water round here.

  i did have some questions for you though, which of course you don't have to answer.. 1. why were you disfellowshipped?

  (pls.

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  DFshipped

  Hi Lisa
  Thanks for the reply. The reason I "label" myself is out of respect to those who would prefer not to be unwittingly drawn into a conversation with a df'd person, somthing they may not otherwise want to do.
  I was df'd for engaging in something clearly condemned by the bible, my actions albeit of a short period of time revealed apparent unrepentance. At the time I was ashamed of what I had done, I felt I was repentant but chose not to argue the matter, as I also felt the discipline would not kill me if I accepted it in the spirit of Heb12
  I have not engaged in that practice for over 14 months. It was not something that would raise eyebrows by worldly standards but is never-the-less unscriptural.
  Yes I did grow up in hte truth. But I was forced to consider my stand when I faced a prison term for my faith. I chose prison.
  Nope I do not have good friends out of the truth. I am new to the country and have no friends.
  Sometimes I have questioned something printed in th epub's.
  My view was this:
  Jehovah has a history of dealing with his people through an organization. Sometimes the Kings / Judges/ priest/ apostles erred in their application of the truth. Sometimes they need to be corrected.
  HOWEVER here is an example:
  High Priest Eli had oversight over the temple. He had tremendous power and influence on how things were conducted there. If I were living there and saw his toleration of wickedness, would I have independantly sought another avenue of worship and another place to sacrifice? Jehovah would not have accepted that. He equired co-operation with his appointed arrangement, and corrected it himself. His corrections were always definite and unambiguous. they were dicisive. So for us today to jump ship over our personal view on some matter which may be supported by a few others would IMHO not be the right decision.
  How many of these diagreements actually are of universal importance.
  So the menaing of the word "generation" has refined. Does that make any material difference to the admonition to serve Jehovah as if the time were close. A close look at the refined definition actually does not change the overall picture painted by the wtbs for many decades.
  That is but on example.
  So I have written to the WBTS on occassion and recieved answers that I could live with. The concerns I had were not earth-shattering and in fact one was later corrected by the WTBS ( Not at my prompting but so what ) The faith I have in the ransom, the Kingdom and the resurrection, to name a few are not affected.
  How would we have felt if we were disciplined by Paul and later learnt that he at one time was not 100% accurate in his teaching of the circumcision issue ? So what ? The rest of what he said was true. Jehovah later corrected the issue ( via the GB ) and Christianity moved ahead.
  Moses, Abraham, King David, and the apostles all had and said things that were not always 100% yet the people who stuck by them retained Jehovahs approval and prospered.
  Ok OK I know I've said a lot but I hope that helps explain my view.
  Regards
  DF'd
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  Am I welcome here?

  by WanderingStar in

  1. jw
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  i am currently df'd but seriously considering returning to the meetings with a view to reinstatement.

  i am looking for honest, open minded discussion.

  if i offend you all by being here, please let me know and i wont come back again.. thanks for reading this!

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  DFshipped

  I have posted almost exactly the same post as yours, I've just come accross yours.
  I am working hard to return. I am not critical of the WBTS nor of the decision to DF me. All I want is to get back, and I have someone to talk to on the way ....kewl.
  I look forward to hearing from you.
  You may email me if you wish
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  Advantages of being a JW

  by ISP in

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  clearly there is a great deal of anti-jw sentiment here and elsewhere for that matter.

  such feelings are generally directed at those at the heart of the organisation and there are no such feelings for the rank and file who are often very genuine people.. in actual fact there are some advantages in being a fully loaded jw and to be fair it would be interesting to note them down.

  they can be factual or whimsical or both.

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  Wow and some here say the WTBS is intrusive !!!! What a question.
  I am never-the-less not unhappy to answer you.
  I gave a number of gifts to my family members. I gave small gifts to work colleagues who were either depressed or became pregnant, or were promoted.
  They included , perfume, flowers , wine, toys, cd's vouchers etc
  I have regularly supported one charity I admire.
  I have also given spiritual gifts to those I witness to. ( and yes they know my status being DF's )
  And dont ask for names and addresses or reciepts you wil need to tak emy word for it.
  Im tempted to ask you the same question as you asked me, but frankly I think it would be in bad taste and not my business. Giving should be a private, willing act. One should not have to answer to anyone on pvt email or other. I dont mean to offend you, but I'm not surprised you never recieved and answer.
  PS Other questions which I would view as obtrusive :
  Who I shower with .... You may get jealous
  My weight ..... Unless you wanted to marry me
  My toilet habits..... They may disgust you
  My salary ......you would laugh
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  R U DFshipped?

  by DFshipped in

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  i am a dfshipped person who is working towards reinstatement.. i would like to meet anyone else who also would like to return.. i really would prefer not to meet people who want to criticize my desire to return.

  i would like to enjoy and offer encouragemnt to others like me.

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  DFshipped

  I am a DFshipped person who is working towards reinstatement.
  I would like to meet anyone else who also would like to return.
  I really would prefer not to meet people who want to criticize my desire to return. I would like to enjoy and offer encouragemnt to others like me.
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  Any suggestions?

  by happytobefree in

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  after reading the posts in parenting re: spanking and the wol thread, it made me ask: is there anything we can do as an individual or group to stop the abuses of the wtbs?.

  i know i personally take any watchtower or awake articles i see placed in places (laudromats, hospitals, etc.

  ) and discard them.

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  Happy
  You mention that you attend a church. That being the case I hope I am right in assuming you believe in the bibles direction, so here are some suggestions :
  The bible says : Treat others as you would have them treat you.
  Follow your heart in helpng those you think need help.
  You would hate your good intentions to be interfered with, so dont throw magazines left by Witnesses who have done so with good intentions, into the garbage.
  The bible also instructs us to Preach the good news of the Kingdom, so your assistance in helping kids get to college or find a home is good, but dont underestimate the value of teaching them the truth about Gods Kingdom and encourage them to hope in it.
  
  The Bible also says
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  Can You Believe THIS?

  by LDH in

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  from the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.

  ::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.

  many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.

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  Im not quite sure what the question is, but I would like to ask this:
  Is it really a stretch of the imagination to beleive that only one group and / or those associated with it will be saved?
  Only one Group ( and associated ones ) were led and looked after in the wilderness, led into the promised land, released from exile in Babylon, saved in the ark, protected by an Angel ( who destroyed 185,0000 enemies in one night )
  Only one group and those associated with it who
  enjoyed the congregation benefits in the 1st century, who were given God appointed kings like David, who were appointed as gueardians of true worship and given a priesthood,
  the list could go on and on
  The point is that Jehovah has set a prescedent for favouring one group and those associating with it many many times in th epast.
  So really is it difficult to imagine he will do it again ?